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Robert Bonomi wrote:
And he was -not- "self sufficient", for "support services". Neither is the NSF. Do you not remember the woman diagnosed with breast cancer last year? The NSF was unable to help her. The US Air Force had to bail her ass out, first by dropping special meds to her, and later by flying a special air evac mission. So since the NSF isn't "self sufficient", your argument doesn't hold up. The NSF may well believe that denying essential assistance (like use of a phone) in Jon's case on the belief that it will discourage irrational thrill seekers. The NSF is wrong. Thrill seekers are irrational, therefore the NSF's passive dissuasion will not work. All that they have done is stir up a row among the Aussies and us, and given themselves a blackeye. Russell Kent |
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Have a solution to the dumb *******s problem.
NZ is in the Coalition (they have 50 or so engineers rebuilding - not in combat organizations). In the joy running around the States and World with capture of SH it would be an excellent time to pay NZ back for their (unpopular beating around the world for being a member of the Coalition) support and have them ask for something in return. Who know? Stranger things have happened if GVT of NZ gets in the act. Big John My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight. I can see his book now on how he worked the system. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:38:05 GMT, John Ammeter wrote: Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../adventurer_dc |
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Big John wrote: Have a solution to the dumb *******s problem. NZ is in the Coalition (they have 50 or so engineers rebuilding - not in combat organizations). In the joy running around the States and World with capture of SH it would be an excellent time to pay NZ back for their (unpopular beating around the world for being a member of the Coalition) support and have them ask for something in return. Who know? Stranger things have happened if GVT of NZ gets in the act. Big John My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight. I can see his book now on how he worked the system. Once again you speak about something you do not have a clue about. |
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"Little Bitty Big John" hurled in message ... Have a solution to the dumb *******s problem. [..] My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight. I can see his book now on how he worked the system. Hey, you cantankerous old weasel, call FAA and revoke his ticket. |
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Why dosnt he contact Britsh Antarctic Survey? I suspect they are likely to be
more sypathetic if only to get rid of him. |
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He's flown out by now
-- Dan D. .. "Morgans" wrote in message ... "Jerry Springer" wrote My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight. I can see his book now on how he worked the system. Once again you speak about something you do not have a clue about ######################## Jerry, can't you see that you don't have to have a clue about what was done, to have an opinion? John's "opinion" is no less valid than your opinion. What has been done has been done. What the solution is, is irrelevant. His tit is in the sling, and he is in their house. That makes them right. If he does not like it he can leave. Oh, what's that, you say? He can't leave? Oh yea!!! Did I say they hold all the cards? They do. That is not opinion. What you and I think is irrelevant. They call the shots. Period. In the meantime, insulting others does nothing but make you look foolish. Have a nice day! -- Jim in NC |
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"Jerry Springer" wrote My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight. I can see his book now on how he worked the system. Once again you speak about something you do not have a clue about ######################## Jerry, can't you see that you don't have to have a clue about what was done, to have an opinion? John's "opinion" is no less valid than your opinion. What has been done has been done. What the solution is, is irrelevant. His tit is in the sling, and he is in their house. That makes them right. If he does not like it he can leave. Oh, what's that, you say? He can't leave? Oh yea!!! Did I say they hold all the cards? They do. That is not opinion. What you and I think is irrelevant. They call the shots. Period. In the meantime, insulting others does nothing but make you look foolish. Have a nice day! -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote: "Jerry Springer" wrote My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight. I can see his book now on how he worked the system. Once again you speak about something you do not have a clue about ######################## Jerry, can't you see that you don't have to have a clue about what was done, to have an opinion? John's "opinion" is no less valid than your opinion. What has been done has been done. What the solution is, is irrelevant. His tit is in the sling, and he is in their house. That makes them right. If he does not like it he can leave. Oh, what's that, you say? He can't leave? Oh yea!!! Did I say they hold all the cards? They do. That is not opinion. What you and I think is irrelevant. They call the shots. Period. In the meantime, insulting others does nothing but make you look foolish. Have a nice day! Jim if any of you had a clue you would have known he left a couple days ago. |
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Been a small flame and here is some fuel for a big flame. A lot of people posting need to research the Treaties, rules and regulations for any type operations in Antarctica. Also if one reads old and current history there are multitudes of stories about the Wx changes within 10-15 minutes with very high winds coming up and zero visibility lasting for days. Wx forecasting down there is more of an art than a science. With any sense you don't fly into that area without lots of backup and alternate options. Particularly in a GA bird. He may well have gotten one of their conditional (warranty good until you walk out the door) Wx checks and the wind came up and he was in deep S***. The wind problem down there is well known and not making options for it is ...............................(Responsible pilots add your own words) Not making alternate options I (and many) feel he just plain screwed up and his notoriety in the Amateur built world (and Talking Heads on TV) not withstanding, he has a hell of a problem that I doubt 'poor boying' to the TV audience will work out for him. So, go read the rules and history and then come back and argue with the facts. Why didn't he have the NZ government use there operations and contacts down there to run interference for him and set up alternate emergency landing authority and access to a limited amount of fuel? Might have taken several years but those things are doable and are the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. Tough titty kitty (as they say). Big John Go ahead and fan the flame, (the 90 gallons are on the fire). I doubt if I will add any more facts and figures to the thread but sit back and keep my cold feet and hands warm. Also: AU supports us in Iraq. In the joy of SH , and AU in the 'Coalition' someone may feel helping the poor crying ******* would be another brownie point for the US??? Who knows. If they were on our side, now is the time to strike for help. I would expect a NOTAM to be put out that any fuel provided from their limited stocks to be billed at $5000 a US gallon cash in advance (like they do at the Panama Canal (No cash, no transit). If he is going to write a book then get an advance $100K and have someone fly a bird in with two drums of fuel and get on his way. He needs to grab his socks and pull up and quit crying. Have at it troops. Big John John Ammeter wrote: Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../adventurer_dc |
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OOps
Big John On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:40:49 -0600, Big John wrote: *****************REWRITE TO CORECT ERRORS***************** Have a solution to the dumb *******s problem. Wrote this just out of Hospital and full of whatever they pump into you. AU has authorized up to 2000 military troops to particapate in the Coalition) . In the joy running around the States and World with capture of SH it would be an excellent time to pay AU back for their (unpopular beating around the world for being a member of the Coalition) support and have them ask for something in return. Who know? Stranger things have happened if GVT of AU gets in the act. Big John My personal bottom line sure doesn't hold him out as a RESPONSIBLE PILOT and he definitely is not a poster boy for GA (or experimental) flight). I can see his book now on how he worked the system. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:38:05 GMT, John Ammeter wrote: Jon Johanson, known for his round the world flights in his RV-4 as well as flights to Oshkosh may have some trouble getting out of Antartica.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../adventurer_dc |
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