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"Paul kgyy" wrote in message oups.com... The water temperature in Lake Michigan is still in the 40s. Lights, flotation gear, all useless except to help them find your frozen body unless your flotation device is a raft with a cover. Plus we have had high winds in the area since last weekend. The lake is a turmoil as a result. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
"Chris" wrote in message ... And maybe it was the fact that he was only 20 years old. Are you saying 20 year olds are stupid? A flight instructor with whom I spoke about this accident claims he saw a Discovery Channel documentary that discussed a theory that the risk-assessment part of the human brain is not fully developed until about 25 years of age. For what that's worth... The age of the average participant in the various X-Games sporting events seems to support this theory. -- Peter ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... "Chris" wrote in message ... And maybe it was the fact that he was only 20 years old. Are you saying 20 year olds are stupid? Less experienced. A 43 year old pilot with 3 years time as a pilot might behave differently than a 20 year old. perhaps more assertive, able and PREPARED to 'fess up to a problem. The thing is that it is easy to generalise. From the various bits I have read, this young man seemed a nice boy and looked to want to please people. Maybe that attitude (desperately desired in many young people today) made him call for help too late. Its all speculation, the poor planning was one issue, poor execution of his way out of the problem was the other. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... So his DE was to blame for granting him an airman certificate? How did you make that leap? |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... Its all speculation, the poor planning was one issue, poor execution of his way out of the problem was the other. Poor planning is a certainty, there was no proper execution out of this problem. |
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I wonder what would have happened if he would have called 30 minutes
before running out of gas and had the Coast Guard giving him "Flight Following" Maybe they could have got there before the plane sank. I don't even know if that was a possibility. Just a thought. Jon Kraus PP-ASEL-IA '79 Mooney 201 Steven P. McNicoll wrote: "Chris" wrote in message ... Its all speculation, the poor planning was one issue, poor execution of his way out of the problem was the other. Poor planning is a certainty, there was no proper execution out of this problem. |
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Jon Kraus wrote:
I wonder what would have happened if he would have called 30 minutes before running out of gas and had the Coast Guard giving him "Flight Following" That would assume he *knew* he had only 30 minutes of fuel left. -- Peter ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
"Chris" wrote: Its all speculation, the poor planning was one issue, poor execution of his way out of the problem was the other. Poor planning is a certainty, there was no proper execution out of this problem. Given the time of the accident (close to midnight) I'm curious about where he might have dropped in for fuel along the way at that time of night. He was visiting near Syracuse, NY, and it looks like about 575 nmi to Watertown, WI, which is near the maximum range of a Piper Archer, obviously depending on configuration. Is this perhaps simply a case of get-home-itis, and he pushed things too far in trying to make his destination non-stop that evening? |
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"Jon Kraus" wrote in message ... I wonder what would have happened if he would have called 30 minutes before running out of gas and had the Coast Guard giving him "Flight Following" Maybe they could have got there before the plane sank. I don't even know if that was a possibility. Just a thought. I don't know what his route was, but thirty minutes earlier he was probably over land east of the lake. |
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Jon Kraus wrote:
I wonder what would have happened if he would have called 30 minutes before running out of gas and had the Coast Guard giving him "Flight Following" Maybe they could have got there before the plane sank. I don't even know if that was a possibility. Just a thought. Lake Watch Reporting Progam is available through Flight Service. Contact FSS prior to going feet wet. Call FSS every 10 minutes and report as necessary (High and Dry, or Mayday!) Cancel Lake Watch when feet dry. With the exception of Western Lake Erie where I can island hop within gliding distance, I will not cross open water without using this service or or talking to ATC. |
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