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Old August 12th 03, 04:43 AM
Montblack
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Default B is for Governor candidate Jim Weir

"W"eir = letter B ...sort-of.

The recall alphabet: R, W, Q, O, J, M, V, A, H, B, S, G, Z, X, N, T, C, I,
E, K, U, P, D, Y, F, L.

(various paragraphs snipped from CNN.com)
Under the California election process, here's how the voting will work: The
candidates' names will be alphabetized based on the alphabet that was
selected Monday, with the candidates' second and following letters being
looked at according to the same list if needed to determine the order within
each group of initial letters.

Officials will then make 80 different lists -- one for each of the state's
voting districts -- by moving each name on top of one list to the bottom of
the next.

Not all candidates will see their name at the top of a list, however, since
there are more than 80 candidates.

The new alphabet means plenty of confusion for voters who come to the polls.
Short of memorizing the recall alphabet, they'll have to scroll through the
entire list of names carefully to find the name they're looking for.

It could all be for naught, however, if California voters buck a poll that
shows 64 percent saying they will vote to recall Gov. Gray Davis, the first
choice on a two-part ballot. The second part, of course, is to pick one of
the many candidates to replace him, a logistical nightmare for elections
officials and a brain teaser for voters.

If the recall succeeds, the candidate with the most votes -- no majority is
necessary -- will take over as governor immediately and serve the remaining
three years of Davis' term.

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Montblack
I really "like to watch" this political stuff


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Old August 12th 03, 12:43 PM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "Montblack" said:
If the recall succeeds, the candidate with the most votes -- no majority is
necessary -- will take over as governor immediately and serve the remaining
three years of Davis' term.


Or until somebody with a lot of money gets disenchanted with his/her
inability to pull money out of his ass to save the state budget, and has
him/her recalled after a year.


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Paul Tomblin , not speaking for anybody
"I picked up a Magic 8-Ball the other day and it said 'Outlook not so
good.' I said, 'Sure, but Microsoft still ships it.'" - unk.
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Old August 12th 03, 08:40 PM
Jim Weir
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Since there are 58 counties in California, and since elections are done by
county, I'd be interested in where the other 22 districts are?

Of COURSE, I'd never challenge a TV reporter's facts {;-)


Jim



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-Officials will then make 80 different lists -- one for each of the state's
-voting districts -- by moving each name on top of one list to the bottom of
-the next.
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com
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Old August 12th 03, 10:28 PM
Russell Kent
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Jim Weir wrote:

Since there are 58 counties in California, and since elections are done by
county, I'd be interested in where the other 22 districts are?

Of COURSE, I'd never challenge a TV reporter's facts {;-)


Perhaps the reporter was referring to the 80 assembly districts?

http://www.assembly.ca.gov/committee/c7/asmfinal/

Jim, are you certain that the voting takes place on a county basis and not on an
assembly district basis?

Russell Kent

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Old August 12th 03, 10:40 PM
Craig Prouse
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Jim Weir wrote:

Since there are 58 counties in California, and since elections are done by
county, I'd be interested in where the other 22 districts are?

Of COURSE, I'd never challenge a TV reporter's facts {;-)


Elections are administered by counties, but if you think about it, any
individual's ballot is not necessarily the same as every other resident of
the same county. I live in urban Santa Clara County, and more specifically
in Assembly District 22. Other residents of this county may find themselves
in Assembly District 20, 21, 23, or 24. They would have different ballots
than I have.

I think you're in AD 3, which being more rural includes Nevada County and
six other counties. In your county, everyone gets the same ballot, but
that's just because you don't have many people in your county.

http://swdb.berkeley.edu/info/caljou.../assembly.html

I hope you got my buck, and I hope I can find you on the ballot before the
polls close.

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Old August 12th 03, 10:50 PM
Jim Weir
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There would be no more rationale for assembly district than for state senate
district, congressional district, or school district that I can think of.

Then again, all my prior races have been county, not state. We'll see, I'm
sure.

Jim


Russell Kent
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Jim, are you certain that the voting takes place on a county basis and not on
an
-assembly district basis?

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com
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Old August 12th 03, 11:38 PM
Jim Weir
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Craig Prouse
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Elections are administered by counties, but if you think about it, any
-individual's ballot is not necessarily the same as every other resident of
-the same county.

As a matter of fact, in the last general election in Nevada County, there were
something like 22 separate ballot styles for this one little county alone ...
combinations of 3 college trustees, several water district seats, some school
district races, supervisors, assembly, senate, congress, and so on and so forth
.... none of which have common boundaries.

-
-I think you're in AD 3,

that's true, although the website you show below is at least two years out of
date. Sam has been a senator for two years and Rick Keene has taken his place.

which being more rural includes Nevada County and
-six other counties. In your county, everyone gets the same ballot, but
-that's just because you don't have many people in your county.
-
-http://swdb.berkeley.edu/info/caljou.../assembly.html
-
-I hope you got my buck, and I hope I can find you on the ballot before the
-polls close.

I got your buck, but I don't acknowledge the generosity unless you bring it up
yourself. Unless it is $100 or more, some people like to keep their political
contributions a personal matter. O'course, with a buck a pop, we aren't near
the limit, are we?

Many thanks for your contribution, and half a dozen more of you on this ng that
I'll thank in public if they 'fess up to sending me money.

Thanks for the buck...and the vote. One-Buck-Weir and Two-Buck-Chuck...two good
reasons to live in California {;-)

Jim

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com
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Old August 13th 03, 12:21 AM
Montblack
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("Jim Weir" wrote)
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I got your buck, but I don't acknowledge the generosity unless you bring
it up yourself.


The heck with acknowledging generosity, how about points for creativity??
:-)

Oh, oh. With Jim being a teacher, I might be looking at a D -.

D - is ok though. It can always be turned into a B+ with the right colored
pen.

Of course the only ink they have in California these days is red.

tap tap tap
Is this thing on?

Montblack
"Ford to city: Drop Dead"
(Famous 1975 newspaper headline)
Gerald Ford vs. a bankrupt New York City


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Old August 13th 03, 12:21 AM
Craig Prouse
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There would be no more rationale for assembly district than for state senate
district, congressional district, or school district that I can think of.


Here's the straight dope, from the California Elections Code:

13111. Candidates for each office shall be printed on the ballot in
accordance with the following rules:
(a) The names of presidential candidates...
(b) The names of the pairs of candidates for President and Vice
President...
(c) In the case of all other offices, the candidates for which are
to be voted on throughout the state, the Secretary of State shall
arrange the names of the candidates for the office in accordance with
the randomized alphabet as provided for in Section 13112 for the
First Assembly District. Thereafter, for each succeeding Assembly
district, the name appearing first in the last preceding Assembly
district shall be placed last, the order of the other names remaining
unchanged.

That doesn't mean there's any rationale for it; it's just the way it is.

I think that this is the best thing we can say about this little circus:
for those who are paying attention, there are some interesting civics
lessons, in a trivia contest sort of way.

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Old August 13th 03, 12:45 AM
Russell Kent
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Jim Weir wrote:

Many thanks for your contribution, and half a dozen more of you on this ng that
I'll thank in public if they 'fess up to sending me money.


At the moment I cannot think of any reason for me not to acknowledge supporting Jim
in his political boondoggle, er, "aspirations". That said, I'm sure that mere
seconds after pressing "SEND" I'll think of a good reason. :-)

Russell "I've been associated with shadier characters" Kent

 




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