Russia Threatens to Strike Terror Bases

Putin doesn't seriously believe that the US is allied with Al-Qaeda in any way,
shape, or form.....does he? That is a paranoid delusion.

Depends on your perspective. How stupid was it for the US to ally
themselves with the Mujehedin against a moderate and secular Afghan
government simply because that government had strong Soviet ties?
Anybody who viewed that conflict from the Soviet perspective is
excused for thinking that the US is capable of such a strange
alliance. At the same time that the US fought Islamic fundamentalism
in Iran they were supporting it in Afghanistan.

Do you think the great "sovietologist" Condoleeza Rice is living
completely in the here and now?



Well,acc.to BBC translation service Putin said the following:

"Some want to cut off a juicy morsel from us while others are helping
them.
They are helping because they believe that,as one of the worlds MAJOR
nuclear powers,Russia is STILL posing a threat to SOMEONE and this and
this threat must be removed.
And Terrorism is,of course,only a TOOL for achieving these goals".


Apparently Putin,an ex-spymaster, and Russians know very well who is
behind AQ and so called Islamic Terrorism.

Dan asked about UFO sightings:
And just where can we find independent proof of your claims?

You have yet to provide any verifiable sources.

What USAAF crew, what were they flying, what unit?


Jeeze Dan, you ahd to ask? Of course it was a Martin B-26 crew, want to guess
who the bombtoggler was?

Rick
MFE

From: (OXMORON1)
Date: 9/13/2004 2:40 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Dan asked about UFO sightings:
And just where can we find independent proof of your claims?

You have yet to provide any verifiable sources.

What USAAF crew, what were they flying, what unit?


Jeeze Dan, you ahd to ask? Of course it was a Martin B-26 crew, want to guess
who the bombtoggler was?

Rick
MFE

Now THAT was cruel g

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Eunometic wrote:
The US has a history of using islamic based insurgence as a wedge
against various European countries.

Any proof to this absurd claim? The one you tried to use below doesn't fly.

The behaviour of the US during the Yugoslave/Bosnian/Kosovo issues

The US came in because the Europeans had allowed, through their own
inaction, a local mess to become so bad they couldn't handle it
themselves. The Europeans were very upset to find out their local
militaries were incapable of doing much of anything, and perhaps there
was a good reason after all for the US's defense budget.

If this is the type of thanks the US receives after it was invited in by
the Europeans to clean up their own mess in their back yard, then
perhaps next time we'll let you go it alone.

That would be another one of those "invitations" that were preceded by
intense lobbying and pressure.

The US was chumping at the bit to have a go at a military intervention
and at the time was following a policy of agitating its Allies to take
more responsibillity globally (ie spend more money to unburden the US)
in implementing what was US policy anyway.

I don't see that ANY western european, US or NATO involvement was
required at all. It was confined to being a civil war that would most
likely have ended in dissolution of Yugoslavia along slightly
different (and better borders). It did not threaten neightbouring
countries and flows of refugees could be handled by population
transfers within the borders of the former Yugoslavia. It was far less
bloody than the butcherous American Civil war. What it seems to have
boiled down to is an unjustified intervention on vastly exaggerated
human rights grounds that was really about appeasing the muslim
populations in the Middle East and Turkey for strategic reasons.
There are in my opinion more people dead becuase of NATO intervention
than without it.

From: (Denyav)
Date: 9/13/2004 1:56 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Your Nazi regime wasn't in power 75 years ago.

First of all Anglos made the arrangements with Kammler,another perfect
example
of famous Anglo pragmatism.
It was also the Anglos who put all documents connected with German advanced
weapons development under lock for 75 years.

Why is it you have never provided verifiable proof of any of your claims?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Why is it you have never provided verifiable proof of any of your claims?


Why and how US uran production spiked suddenly and unexpectedly in June 45?
This is easily verifiable after DOE documents declassified in 90s.
You can easily prove that the extra Uran did not come from US sources.
So if this extra Uran did not come from Germany,where did it come from then?

How Dr.Alvares who was unable to design even one working ignitor for plutonium
bomb for 18 months,designed an excellent ignitor at the virtually last minute
after he inspected U-234 cargo and debriefed Dr.Schlicke,the scientific
passenger of U-234?

The Manhattan Project was the worst and most costly Anglo blunder of WWII,it
meant also a humiliation for Anglos because Germans left Anglos behind by using
only one fifth of scientific workforce.
(Germans used only one fifth of scientific personel used by MP to accomplish
identical tasks),and that was the manifestation of the superiority of Central
European Culture over more pragmatic and rentier oriented Anglo culture.

That was the main reason why German achievements during WW II needed to be
suppressed for almost one century after WWII..

Denyav wrote:

How Dr.Alvares who was unable to design even one working ignitor for plutonium
bomb for 18 months,designed an excellent ignitor at the virtually last minute
after he inspected U-234 cargo and debriefed Dr.Schlicke,the scientific
passenger of U-234?


1945.1 (= Jan 1945) [U. S. A.] An ignition device for implosion
completed by Luis W. Alvarez.
http://www.ask.ne.jp/~hankaku/english/np7y.html

That was some 4 months before the U-234 episode.

From: (Denyav)
Date: 9/14/2004 11:53 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Why is it you have never provided verifiable proof of any of your claims?


Why and how US uran production spiked suddenly and unexpectedly in June 45?
This is easily verifiable after DOE documents declassified in 90s.
You can easily prove that the extra Uran did not come from US sources.
So if this extra Uran did not come from Germany,where did it come from then?

How Dr.Alvares who was unable to design even one working ignitor for
plutonium
bomb for 18 months,designed an excellent ignitor at the virtually last minute
after he inspected U-234 cargo and debriefed Dr.Schlicke,the scientific
passenger of U-234?

The Manhattan Project was the worst and most costly Anglo blunder of WWII,it
meant also a humiliation for Anglos because Germans left Anglos behind by
using
only one fifth of scientific workforce.
(Germans used only one fifth of scientific personel used by MP to accomplish
identical tasks),and that was the manifestation of the superiority of Central
European Culture over more pragmatic and rentier oriented Anglo culture.

That was the main reason why German achievements during WW II needed to be
suppressed for almost one century after WWII..


You are repeating yourself without providing any proof.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

You are repeating yourself without providing any proof.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

And you are repeating yourself without even checking recently released DOE
documents.
1)Where the extra Uran came from if it did not come from Germany?
From Saddams WMD stocks maybe?

2)How a scientist like Dr.Alvares who could not produce even one succesful
igniter design in previous 18 month ,suddenly designed an excellent igniter at
the very last moment after checking U-234 cargo and debriefing of Dr.Schlicke?
What was the reason of sudden IQ boost Dr.Alvares experienced?

Accept it famous Manhattan Prolect was not even able to figure out how much
uran they needed for an Uran bomb before Feb.45, and they were NEVER able to
design a succesful igniter for Plutonium bomb.

But this is an Anglo dominated country and "lmage is Everything".
So try to save the image by all means even if there is a huge difference
between the image and the reality.

1945.1 (= Jan 1945) [U. S. A.] An ignition device for implosion
completed by Luis W. Alvarez.
http://www.ask.ne.jp/~hankaku/english/np7y.html

That was some 4 months before the U-234 episode.

Actually Dr.Alvares completed not one but Three (3) ignitor designs,but none of
them were succesful.Thats the reason why I say "He was unable to produce even
one succesful ignitor design in 18 months"

The last one that delivered to test only hours before was fourth design.

Poor showing of Alvares' first three designs was very well known and documented
fact.
So everbody,including many top Manhattan Projecters were surprised by the
excellent showing of this fourth design in actual test.
After the war ,Alvares always dodged questions about this problem his answer
was always "Well.I cleaned up some wires",.
Well its of course not so simple like Dr.Alvarez made us to believe.
According to Harlow Russ,this fourth design was totally different from the
previous three and included two radical new components and according to Russ
new design these new design was completed "just in time" for trinity test which
explains why the new bomb components arrived to the test site only hours before
actual test.

Alvares' first three designs which your link refers to were so bad that
almost nobody within Manhattan Project believe in success of of Plutonium bomb
test so they concentrated on how to reclaim precious Plutonium from the test
site after failed test.
But to the surprise of the all Manhattan Projecters yield of test was four
times better than their most optimistic estimates.

Why?
Because instead of Dr.Alvarez' junk,superior German technology,or more
precisely the product of universal and eccentric genius von Ardenne, was at the
work in Trinity test site.