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"C J Campbell" wrote:
Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned liberal principles. Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the same thing WRT conservative principles. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message ... Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the same thing WRT conservative principles. Bingo again. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of Jefferson. If Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by Democrats as a right wing extremist. He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Free thinkers are despised by both parties. ". shake off all the fears and servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message ... He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Jefferson godless? |
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote: Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned liberal principles. Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the same thing WRT conservative principles. -- Modern conservatives are not traditional conservatives any more than modern liberals are traditional liberals. Conservatives today seem to be a motley mix of radicals, anarchists, and brigands. It is especially weird to see the party of Lincoln (as it calls itself) almost completely taken over by racists and xenophobes. I never did figure out how the Democrats, who supported slavery and generally opposed any form of equal rights, managed to hijack that issue from the Republicans, who fought to free the slaves, passed the Equal Housing Act, and enacted many other such reforms. Nor have I figured out how the Democrats managed to hijack environmentalism from the Teddy Roosevelt Republicans. So now you have 'conservatives' running around talking about property rights and states' rights (originally created to protect slavery) and protecting large corporations while espousing populist principles. And you have the 'liberals' running around trying to limit free speech and press, disarming the public, and supporting the worst thugs and despots imaginable in other countries in the name of 'diversity' and 'tolerance.' |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Jefferson godless? Apparently deists are thought to be godless. |
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Wish the government would buy 2 airports near me, 1 airport's runway housing
semi trailers the other is going to be destroyed by a developer that will only leave 1 airport here that the city owns but for how long who knows? "Jason Peterson" wrote in message ... The local small airport near me was bought by the government to stop it from being bought by a home builder. Now tell me that it is the free market at work there. The land is worth millions, but the government wants to keep it an airport. I guess government spending is not so bad after all!!! Jason "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... "Bill Denton" wrote in message ... How much did you pay the FAA last year, other than the same amount that non-flyers in your tax bracket paid? Considerably more, as the primary source of FAA funding is user taxes which are not paid by non-flyers. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Jefferson godless? He wasn't, of course. And I should have said "many Republicans," since the influence of Bible-inerrancy believing fundamentalists has not entirely pervaded the party. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote in message ... Then why the fight against gay marriage? What fight against gay marriage? You've just gone a long way toward's blowing whatever credibility you might have with this statement. Why the fight against abortion? Because all current abortion methods kill a child. When an abortion procedure is developed that does not kill the child the fight against abortion will end. Actually, there are several methods available that already are acting to prevent abortions, with Planned Parenthood being one of their leading proponents. The fall under the general category of "birth control procedures", and people generally learn about them through something called "sex education". While I am firmly pro-choice, I am willing to admit that the anti-abortion side (which is not necessarily pro-life, so I won't call it such) does have a point. Most anti-abortionists I've encountered, though, have absolutely no interest in preventing the procedure. What they want to do is _stop_ it, because prevention is much harder and involves other things that the anti-abortionists are uncomfortable with - things like making sure that teenagers know the "facts of life", or that all women have affordable access to birth control and health care. If you've waited until little Debbie is pregnant, you've lost your chance to prevent an abortion, period. All you can do now is stop it, but don't call it prevention. Rich Lemert |
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