Bible-beater pilots

In article , Larry Fransson
wrote:

On 2003-11-21 12:45:01 -0800, "Jay Honeck" said:
Personally, I feel that we work too damned hard for our money to donate it
to organized criminals.

Oh, give it a rest already, Jay. Just because a few
big names have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar, you think that
every church in the world is an organization of criminals? Gimme a break.And
you know, if this is the worst thing that's ever happened to you (and you
seem to act as if it was), then your life could be a whole lot worse.

Who said he was referring to a religion?
He's talking about the government.

Gees, you too? Back in my dress wearing days, I got the great pleasure
(not) of training the son of the nuttiest church lady you'd ever want to
meet. Ewwwwwwwwww!!! Man talk about child abuse!
--
Jim Burns III

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"Jim Weir" wrote in message
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Dunno. I was wearing one of those black dresses with the white blouse at
the
time. I always saw him from the front {;-)


Jim



"Jay Honeck"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-Remember what a thrill it was to actually SEE the priest, facing the
-congregation?

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:02:47 GMT, Randy Wentzel wrote:

42?

42!

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On 2003-11-21 06:45:46 -0800, "Jay Honeck" said

My goodness, Jay. Get a grip

Discussing whacko pilots isn't appropriate in a piloting newsgroup

They hardly seemed like "whacko" pilots from your description. They seemed like sincere individuals with a message they thought they should share with you. I'll agree that they really should have quit when you resisted, but you really didn't need to go on about it as if it were the worst thing that's ever happened to you. Was it the worst thing that has ever happened to you

I'm sincerely afraid to share the airspace with guys wh
think someone Else is steering..

Then you really should quit flying

On 2003-11-21 06:16:52 -0800, "Jay Honeck" said

...I would be interested to hear another pilot...give a cogent, logical
scientifically-proven defense of your beliefs

Is that possible

C. S. Lewis was neither a pilot nor a scientist, but he does a good job of
explaining things starting from a common reference point that has nothing to do
with God or any kind of religion in his book, _Mere Christianity_

In article MEpvb.267465$Fm2.280789@attbi_s04, Jay Honeck wrote:

I think it was the utter "out of left field" nature of these guys that
caught us both off guard. We were feeling really good about ourselves, and
the day, and the flight, and all the sudden *wham!* -- we found ourselves
knee-deep in a religious debate neither of us expected.

I have a description of this effect. You're talking to someone and holding a
seemingly-meaningful conversation, and suddenly they start quacking like
a duck. They clearly still *think* you're having a conversation, but you're
not.... This seems to manifest itself mostly in the realm of religion, but
sometimes you see the effect with conspiracy theory people too.

Mike Beede

On 2003-11-21 13:26:58 -0800, EDR said

Who said he was referring to a religion
He's talking about the government

Oops, my bad. I see that now. But I don't think he's talking about the government. He gives his money to the government whether he wants to or not. I think he was referring to the casino...

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Jay, Jay, Jay! Look at the hornet's nest you have stirred up!
Interesting post, and one that I can relate to, except it wasn't in a
casino by an airport, but at the front door of my own home! I guess I
got a Book of Mormon out of the whole deal (and not much more), so it
wasn't so bad! Of course, they were back for a follow up session a few
days later, and the chicken that I am, I got my roommate to tell them
that I wasn't there (and he told them that he was not interested)! Ah
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Reading Scet's post below, I must saw that I thought differently too. I
had seen some of your conservative views (especially after 9/11), and
so was all the more surprised by your post. I guess  conservative, and
religious don't necessarily go in the same sentence! :-) What do you
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are/were under the impression that most Americans are very religious, you
know God bless America and all that stuff, where it is the opposite in
Australia. In saying that, it surprises me that you aren't. I am not
religious myself.

When I find myself in a situation such as yours Jay, I cannot help but to
"debate" if you like, the existance of God and the hipocracy of the various
churches around the world. I don't let it become personal or childish but it
invariably ends in the religious person having no answer but the old
"Because it is Gods way/wish" or what ever. But that's just me Jay, there
are times when I'll be straight to the point and say I'm not interested
thank you, and adopt the speak to the hand pose. I think they should be
treated like telemarketers. Keep it short and straight to the point, but
give it to them right back, it's your free time and if your like me, they
don't come very often, don't let it be spoiled by misdirected people. If
they stop talking and the silence is awkward, let them know that you won't
be offended if they move to another table.

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On 2003-11-21 13:03:41 -0800, (Jim Buckridge) said:

I still don't understand how people who consider themselves true
followers of Christ rationalize spending money on frivolous flight.
Just getting the PPL costs over $5K. That money would have gone a
long long way to feeding hungry people, or paying the way for
missionaries to spread the word....

I know one guy who was getting flight training just so that he could go and fly for one of the missionary flight organizations - MAF, I think. I also work with a guy who took a year off from flying professionally to go fly for a missionary organization in Central America.

Jay Honeck wrote:

Thanks. I tend to spell it interchangeably, since my chell specker doesn't
recognize it!

I prefer to refer to it as "PDC".

Come over here : we'll do some flying and you'll learn some french.