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When you enlist in the US Armed Forces you swear to defend the Constitution
against all enemies foreign and domestic. Though it can surely be debateable about all activity on foreign soil, I do agree with here at home. And here at home is where that sacred document is constantly trampled on by leftist and an out of control judicial system. But don't think I am just picking on Democrats, because I for one feel the Patriot Act is the most Unpatriotic Act I have ever heard of. In Afghanistan our troops are protecting the Constitution because the idiots that attacked us are imbedded there. Iraq is a toss up! HA Though we were actually only in an official cease fire from the first Gulf War , and Iraq did not want to follow their own agreements so we attacked them again. However the First Gulf War was NOT RIGHT. First Kuwait is a kingdom , so we can not use the defending democracy thing, and since we had no protectional treaty with that kingdom it really was none of our biz! Alot of modern Presidents have that problem of sending our troops were they should not be, Republicans and Democrats. Myself I do not feel we should send US troops anywhere that a formal Declaration Of War by Congress as established in the Constitution has been passed. The terrorists are definitely a threat to the US and our Constitution..but the biggest enemies are the politicians that scare people into thinking they have to take our freedoms to be safe from terrorists or even crooks on our streets. just think we have a political party that screams First Amendment rights whenever their side has anything to say , even when it is just a blatent lie. But they do not feel vets who speak out against their side should have those same rights. This same bunch feels it is necessary to ban weapons against the very fabric and heart of the Second Amendment. I fear the leftist more than a rag headed suicide bomber! And let us not forget The Constitution was not written in peacetime. Nor should we forget that Abraham Lincoln was the first President to throw it aside and declare "the first Presidential Powers Act". He had anyone against the Union ( Abe's side of it) put in federal Prison with no charges being filed and held indefinitely....he even had the entire MAryland legislature put in prison because he was afraid they would vote to secede! I don't think any President since FDR has actually asked for war the" Constitutional way". So even in times of conflict our Constitution can be in danger from within as well as a enemy on the outside. Just things to ponder! "Graham Shevlin" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:10:36 -0400, "W P Dixon" wrote: Well Pete I have defended the Constitution have you? VET USMC fighting in the armed forces does not necessarily equate to defending the Constitution. The contents of the Constitution are not affected by Americans fighting overseas. What ultimately impacts the Constitution is what happens in peacetime here in the continental USA. |
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However the First Gulf War was NOT RIGHT. First Kuwait is a kingdom , so we can not use the defending democracy thing, and since we had no protectional treaty with that kingdom it really was none of our biz! ?????????????????????????????? wow! What a spin. We went to free "Kuwait", because the legal rulers asked the U.N. to do so. It was a U.N. action. Or do you not agree with our participation in the U.N.? -- Jim in NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 |
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Matter of fact I do not , this mess about the UN screwing us every chance
they get in Iraq is examples why. Oil for Food, Brie For Food,etc etc etc "Morgans" wrote in message ... However the First Gulf War was NOT RIGHT. First Kuwait is a kingdom , so we can not use the defending democracy thing, and since we had no protectional treaty with that kingdom it really was none of our biz! ?????????????????????????????? wow! What a spin. We went to free "Kuwait", because the legal rulers asked the U.N. to do so. It was a U.N. action. Or do you not agree with our participation in the U.N.? -- Jim in NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 |
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And let us not forget The Constitution was not written in peacetime.
Actually it was. The US was not at war with anyone in 1788-9. |
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Actually it was drawn up in 1787, ratified in 1788. I should have phrased my
statement more correctly though. The meaning being that the Constitution was conceieved by other documents such as The Articles Of Confederation, etc. which was written in 1778 and lastly ratified by Maryland in 1781 if I remember correctly. The Articles was like the Daddy of the Constitution which the nation needed because the Articles did not give any purpose to a Federal Government to defend the new States..not to mention it did not include a President or a Court which The Constitution put in place. It sure would have been a hard row to hoe if every state had to act in it's own defense in time of invasion. But yes you are in fact correct about "The Constitution" being a peacetime document because The American Revolution had ended in 1783. I should have cleared up my thinking of The Articles better , my apologies. But I am sure we can all agree if there had not been a war to insure it that the Constitution would not exist....not that one anyway, maybe years later we would have gotten freedom from England without a fight? "G EddieA95" wrote in message ... And let us not forget The Constitution was not written in peacetime. Actually it was. The US was not at war with anyone in 1788-9. |
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Date: 9/17/2004 6:07 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: However the First Gulf War was NOT RIGHT. First Kuwait is a kingdom , so we can not use the defending democracy thing, and since we had no protectional treaty with that kingdom it really was none of our biz! ?????????????????????????????? wow! What a spin. We went to free "Kuwait", because the legal rulers asked the U.N. to do so. It was a U.N. action. Or do you not agree with our participation in the U.N.? -- Jim in NC To put things in perspective the UN has authorized war exactly twice: Korea and Kuwait and neiter was resolved satisfactorily. As a matter of fact a technical state of war exists to this day in Korea. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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