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If the Airplane is locked it is in a safe place. Now if they catch the guys
the go to federal prison.
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On May 26, 1:39 pm, Matt Whiting wrote:
James Sleeman wrote:
On May 26, 5:47 am, Kingfish wrote:
Sorry to hear about this Vic. I'm kinda curious to know why anyone
would keep firearms in their hangar or acft though?

Sounds to me like a gun collector, a hanagr is just as safe as a house
to keep your gun collection I suppose.

Not even close. A hangar is not occupied nearly as often as your house.

That said, there has been a recent discussion about guns and planes.
Basically it boiled down to as I remember 2 groups of people:

1. The people flying in areas where a firearm is necessary for self
preservation in the event of a downing in places where there are big
furry animals who would quite like to eat you (and probably some less
furry animals you'd quite like to eat).
2. The "this is America dammit, it's my constitutional right!" crowd.

Both are good reasons to have a gun in an airplane, but neither are good
reasons to leave a gun in an airplane. That is just dumb.

Matt

Wow, the thought of having firearms that aren't locked away just
worries me. Here as I understand it the police won't allow you a
firearms license without showing them you have them safely locked away
in some sort of safe, and if they were to find out you kept your gun
in your hangar / aeroplane they'd go ballistic!

What is it with Americans and bloody guns???

On May 25, 9:39 pm, Matt Whiting wrote:
James Sleeman wrote:
On May 26, 5:47 am, Kingfish wrote:
Sorry to hear about this Vic. I'm kinda curious to know why anyone
would keep firearms in their hangar or acft though?

Sounds to me like a gun collector, a hanagr is just as safe as a house
to keep your gun collection I suppose.

Not even close. A hangar is not occupied nearly as often as your house.

That said, there has been a recent discussion about guns and planes.
Basically it boiled down to as I remember 2 groups of people:

1. The people flying in areas where a firearm is necessary for self
preservation in the event of a downing in places where there are big
furry animals who would quite like to eat you (and probably some less
furry animals you'd quite like to eat).
2. The "this is America dammit, it's my constitutional right!" crowd.

Both are good reasons to have a gun in an airplane, but neither are good
reasons to leave a gun in an airplane. That is just dumb.

Matt

There were no guns stolen from an airplane and none kept in an
airplane. The guns stolen were taken from a hangar with an office
sometimes used as a place to over nite when the owner needs to avoid
traveling to and from the big city. The thieves had to pick three
locks to get to them. One lock to get inside the hangar, one lock to
get inside the office, one lock to get inside the desk. One of the
locks was a locked steel desk with the three handguns in the drawer.
The shotgun was used for over nite protection. This is an isolated
airport miles away from the town. None of the handguns were loaded or
had ammunition with them.

Leaving these small caliber handguns in the hangar was a mistake. I
left the hangar without them because I was ill with a fever and simply
forgot to take them along. I did not intent to store them there. I
took them there to have a friend impress them with confidential
identification numbers and to shoot them at the range. This ID
procedure is something very new and hi teck. We do not have a range
near the big city.

We are about to come up with another $500 to add to the reward.

wrote

There were no guns stolen from an airplane and none kept in an
airplane. The guns stolen were taken from a hangar with an office
sometimes used as a place to over nite when the owner needs to avoid
traveling to and from the big city. The thieves had to pick three
locks to get to them. One lock to get inside the hangar, one lock to
get inside the office, one lock to get inside the desk. One of the
locks was a locked steel desk with the three handguns in the drawer.
The shotgun was used for over nite protection. This is an isolated
airport miles away from the town. None of the handguns were loaded or
had ammunition with them.

There is no doubt in my mind, that someone who knew you did this, because
they had to have known the location of the guns, to go through all of those
layers.
--
Jim in NC

James Sleeman wrote:
Sounds to me like a gun collector, a hanagr is just
as safe as a house to keep your gun collection I suppose.

I wondered why anyone would keep multiple collectible guns in a hangar,
too, and then thought maybe he has children at home and felt there was
less risk of them falling into the wrong hands.

On May 26, 3:06 pm, Shirl wrote:
James Sleeman wrote:
Sounds to me like a gun collector, a hanagr is just
as safe as a house to keep your gun collection I suppose.

I wondered why anyone would keep multiple collectible guns in a hangar,
too, and then thought maybe he has children at home and felt there was
less risk of them falling into the wrong hands.

That's why you lock the bloody things away!

chris wrote:
On May 26, 3:06 pm, Shirl wrote:
James Sleeman wrote:
Sounds to me like a gun collector, a hanagr is just
as safe as a house to keep your gun collection I suppose.
I wondered why anyone would keep multiple collectible guns in a hangar,
too, and then thought maybe he has children at home and felt there was
less risk of them falling into the wrong hands.

That's why you lock the bloody things away!


Except when you are carrying them, which should be all of the time in
many parts of the world.

Matt

Shirl wrote:
James Sleeman wrote:
Sounds to me like a gun collector, a hanagr is just
as safe as a house to keep your gun collection I suppose.

I wondered why anyone would keep multiple collectible guns in a hangar,
too, and then thought maybe he has children at home and felt there was
less risk of them falling into the wrong hands.

That is what gun safes are for.

Matt

wrote:
$1500 cash reward for info leading to arrest and conviction of lowlife
scum thieves who broke into hangars and aircraft at Rutherford County,
NC Airport [KFQD] and stole the following items on or about Thursday,
May 19, 2007:


Vic
BTW, Vic.
I use eBay regularly and will keep an eye out.

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On May 30, 8:16 pm, "Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote:
wrote:
$1500 cash reward for info leading to arrest and conviction of lowlife
scum thieves who broke into hangars and aircraft at Rutherford County,
NC Airport [KFQD] and stole the following items on or about Thursday,
May 19, 2007:

Vic

BTW, Vic.
I use eBay regularly and will keep an eye out.

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You are very kind and consideratge. And I thank you.

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On May 27, 11:31 am, "RST Engineering"
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I'm in for twenty under the same conditions as dub.

Jim

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On May 25, 10:03 am, wrote:
$1500 cash reward for info leading to arrest and conviction of lowlife
scum thieves who broke into hangars and aircraft at Rutherford County,
NC Airport [KFQD] and stole the following items on or about Thursday,
May 19, 2007:
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I'll kick in a twenty... subject to the conviction AND incarceration
of the thief. (This slap-on-the-hand, suspended-sentence bull**** is
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Thanks everbody.

Deputies caught someone trying to fence a set of Bose headsets and
Garmin 295 taken at the airport. Deputy also says they have found my
Garmin 195. Several serch warrants have already been used.
It looks like the thieves were homeboys.

If this pan's out it will be the first time in my life of over 50
years when anything stolen was recovered. I had a car stolen, two
motorcycles, several housebreakings, and plenty of cars broken into
and nobody ever caught and nothing ever returned. I quit driving
convertibles because of the tops getting cut up by car burglers. And
no insureance neither. Am sure most everybody else has been hurt by
thieves. This one gave me a real hartburn that will still burns years
later.

Some time ago two big twin Harly Davidson motorcycles were stolen in a
break-in. ONe of them was mine. It was almost new. License and
thieft division of the Florida Burau of Investigation found one of the
bikes at a Daytona bike show. The numbers had been altared but they
found secrit vehicle identifiction numbers.

They had these thieves caught dead to rights and didn't even arrest
them. They found out the bikes had been taken by a gang in West
Virgina they had connections to one of the mechanics who worked at the
shop where the bikes were stolen.. The person who the bike was stole
form in Daytona came back with a treller with a fake bill of sale and
took it back to West Virginia. His only problem was they wouldn't
issue a tag to him. Nobody was ever brought to justice. There's
severl people who ought to have a bullet in there head but got off
scott free.

On May 25, 12:55 pm, wrote:
$1500 cash reward for info leading to arrest and conviction of lowlife
scum thieves who broke into hangars and aircraft at Rutherford County,
NC Airport [KFQD] and stole the following items on or about Thursday,
May 19, 2007:



On May 25, 1:03 pm, wrote:
$1500 cash reward for info leading to arrest and conviction of lowlife


Two thieves were caught and all the guns but just a fraction of the
tools were returned. The fence seems to have brought back the tools
he felt were worth the $200 he paid and kept the rest. Other words,
if someone buy $3,000 worth of Snap-Ons for $200 it would be hard to
say later he did not know they were hot.

The detective who solved this case has made a big reputation for
himself. He has solved big crimes, right and left. His name is Jeff
Hamrick and he is becoming famous in these parts for digging in his
heels and not letting up.

All the avionics, mostly Garmin, King, and Bose headsets were returned
to their owners too.

The thieves are in jail awaiting trial under $100,000 bonds. They are
local to Rutherford County, in their late 20's and had no criminal
records.

Investigation is still open because of a number of fences and a string
of about 20 burglaries. And we understand another warrant for arrest
is outstanding. There is also official talk that someone on our
airport supplied information.

Watch your security, men, and record all those serial numbers. Serial
numbers helped us out. So did very accurate descriptions of the
property taken.

I would have killed just for that beautiful gold-triggered Browning .
22 target pistol that goes back to my boyhood. And now I'm proud to
say it's back home again.

Thanks to all of your for your support and special thanks to those
good-hearted souls Veedubber and Jim Weir who offered to add to the
reward.