For those still insisting that France has always been our friend...

On 28 Oct 2003 06:06:19 -0800, The Enlightenment wrote:
Whole regions of the US now have crap english and crap spannish as
some are even illiterat in their own tongue.

I hear Australia is almost as bad :-)

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:47:51 -0500, Cub Driver
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Obviously you don't live in a university community. (Perhaps, instead
of saying "Democrats", the poster should have said "the Good People".)

I do live in a university community... or at least a college
community... and it's still bull****. Apparently, Ann Coulter is
engaged in a social experiment, trying to find a lie so filthy that
even people who quote her is a .sig file won't believe it. Evidently,
she hasn't found one yet.

Scott

Find one "lie" that Ann Coulter has told. I challenge you. Put up or shutup.


How about in her book "Slander" where she claimed that the New York
Times did not address the death of Dale Ernhardt for several days
because of its cultural elitism and disdain for Nascar fans while in
reality the New York Times the next morning had a front page article
about his death.
If you really want to see Ann Coulter and her tenous grasp of facts
please go to this website: http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh072202.shtml
for Exhibit 1, http://www.dailyhowler.com/n070802.shtml for Exhibit 2,
http://pub146.ezboard.com/flipolitic... cID=897.topic
for a link to a published review of Slander which notes massive
factual errors.

Coulter is a cheap political hack that specializes in invective and
ideology, and not facts.

Dave

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Still, your point is worth taking. While American Muslims are far from
being the homogeneous group you'll find in France (I presume they're
most Algerian-French, or at least with ties to North Africa),

North African: either Arab or Black.

The word Arab refers to people that speak an arabic language. Not to a so
called "race".

I said they were Arab or Black. Its an appropriate statment that
conveys precise and complete information.

Arab refers to an ancestral grouping and therefor as well as to a
cultural grouping. The two go hand in hand. For purposes of
practicalities, cohesion and generosity one might include those Blacks
or Arab-black mulattos that entered the Arab ethnie as a result of
trade contacts or as slaves as "Arab". Unless you are blind you don't
conflated Arabs with Finns nor do you conflate Arabs with Subsaharan
blacks. There are some very dark skinned arabs of course and some
that are blond but they are still Arab and not sub-saharan black.



Like most racists, 'The Enlightenment' isn't that hot on knowing what 'race'
actually means.

The classic taxonomic division is Causcoid, Negroid, Mongoloid. (Some
people include a 4th division for the Melanesian people of Papaua New
Guinee). There is nothing wrong with finner divisions beyond these 3
to account for differences in genetics and ancestry. In fact these
divisions are necessary and intuititive I.E Sth American Indians
and East Asians (like Chinese) are both classified as Mongoloid under
this taxonomy.

Paleolithic Europeans were seperated by the ice age for 40,000 years
before a small influx of neolithic genes from the middle near east
that no more than 20% to the gene pool.


North-Africans are not "Arabs". Irakis, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Omanis are what
you call "Arabs". Algerians, Tunisians and Moroccans are Maghrebians.

Strawman, Hair Splitting and Misrepreseantaion. A typical tactic of
the race denier. Human biodiveristy exists. Live with the facts.





Black American Islam is odd (judged by middle eastern norms) and in
some of its forms would be considered herectical in the middle east,
not that the Black American muslims are concerned with that
disapproval. They are afterall americans by ethnicity.

The situation is not as France in which there are possibly 14 million
muslims of Nth African/Arab decent (someting equivalen to raical
privacy laws prevents proper data).

14 million. Yeah right. 1 out of 4 frenchmen is north african?
Divide it by 3 and you'll be getting closer

Up to 14 million "may" be have Nth African ancestry. Personaly I
beleive the figure is closer to 7 million. Accurate data is NOT
available becuase of what is effectively something equivalent to the
Ward Connoly's proposed US racial privacy laws that prevent the
government form collecting racial data.


Like most racists, 'The Enlightenment' isn't that hot on numbers either.

Most of the S11 attackers were
based in France at one point.

And in Germany. And in the USA.

Predominantly France. It is a sea amongst which the terrorist might
swim as Mao put it.


'Saudi' Arabia should probably be mentioned at this point.

Indeed.


John