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2 Place Experimental....
Just the other day I saw a two place Sailplane , factory built, but with an experimental label in the cockpit.
I'm 99% sure it was not in the ameateur built catagory. What are the rules about carying passengers in the "Other" experimental catgories? Are these rules ever enforced? |
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Paul wrote..
What are the rules about carying passengers in the "Other" experimental catgories? As I understand it, one may give a ride in an Experimental two-place sailplane, but he can't charge for it. A bigger problem is that instruction is not allowed to be given in a two-place sailplane. Are these rules ever enforced? Probably not, until you have an accident and then your insurance company will be quite interested in your activities. JJ Sinclair |
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At 23:00 05 September 2003, F.L. Whiteley wrote:
Can a DPE give a check ride in an experimental glider and charge for services? Yup. Per Order 8710.3c, the aircraft must be certificated as either amateur built or for exhibition purposes. This presumes, per Chapter 5, paragraph 13(b), that the examiner is willing, required tasks are permitted by FAA-issued operating limitations and the aircraft is capable of performing flight test tasks. (Irrespective of airworthiness certification, there are provisions for using 2 different aircraft for a practical test if required maneuvers can't all be demonstrated in one aircraft.) Judy |
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"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message ... Paul wrote.. What are the rules about carying passengers in the "Other" experimental catgories? As I understand it, one may give a ride in an Experimental two-place sailplane, but he can't charge for it. A bigger problem is that instruction is not allowed to be given in a two-place sailplane. What's your basis for making that statement? |
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David Kinsell wrote
What's your basis for making that statement? I am a part owner of an ASH-25, (2 -place) liceenced Experimental, Exhibition/ Racing. From my Operating Limitations: 1. No person may operate this aircraft for other than the purpose of exhibition / air racing That lets out giving instruction. 14. No person may operate this aircraft for carrying persons or property for compensation or hire. That lets out getting paid, but allows me to give someone a free ride, but in my case, I would, of course, be practicing for "Air Racing" and not just "sight-seeing" JJ Sinclair |
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1. No person may operate this aircraft for other than the purpose of exhibition / air racing That lets out giving instruction. I though that racing/exhibition also limited you to only required crew? |
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Paul wrote
I though that racing/exhibition also limited you to only required crew? Yes, thats correct and on my ASH-25 the required crew is Pilot and Co-pilot or as my son puts it; JJ and his baby sitter. JJ Sinclair |
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"JJ Sinclair" wrote in message ... David Kinsell wrote What's your basis for making that statement? I am a part owner of an ASH-25, (2 -place) liceenced Experimental, Exhibition/ Racing. From my Operating Limitations: 1. No person may operate this aircraft for other than the purpose of exhibition / air racing That lets out giving instruction. Oh, because some a/c licensed as Experimental, Exhibition/Racing have those restrictions, that means that all aircraft licensed as Experimental have those same restrictions?? That's a form of logic I'm not familiar with. 14. No person may operate this aircraft for carrying persons or property for compensation or hire. That lets out getting paid, but allows me to give someone a free ride, but in my case, I would, of course, be practicing for "Air Racing" and not just "sight-seeing" JJ Sinclair Giving free joy rides could easily be interpreted as not flying for the purpose of air racing. |
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JJ Sinclair wrote:
David Kinsell wrote What's your basis for making that statement? I am a part owner of an ASH-25, (2 -place) liceenced Experimental, Exhibition/ Racing. From my Operating Limitations: 1. No person may operate this aircraft for other than the purpose of exhibition / air racing That lets out giving instruction. huh? You mean precludes? john orlandoshire fl |
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