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VFR position reporting
Not necessarily. Read the AIM.
"BT" wrote in message ... | if you are making position reports | do you not then have flight following? | BT | | "Mxsmanic" wrote in message | ... | I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position reports if you | are flying VFR over long distances without flight following. To whom | do you report your position, and what information should it include? | Which positions do you report and how often? | | -- | Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. | | |
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"Jim Macklin" writes:
Although VFR position reports are usually given directly to FSS Radio on one of the frequencies publish on the sectional chart or in the AFD, you can give a VFR position report to ATC even if you are not in radar contact, just call Center [call sign] VFR position report. They will be able to record the report and are happy to do so, particularly in remote areas. This is good to know. I thought only FSS was willing to take position reports, and that you had to request flight following with ATC in order to have them record your position. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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"Scott Post" wrote in message ... In article , Mxsmanic wrote: Scott Post writes: You do realize that a radio isn't required for VFR flight, right? Yes, just as you surely realize that making position reports aids S&R if you should happen to go down for any reason (if you have not requested flight following from ATC). You do make position reports when flying over long distances, don't you? Surely you aren't planning to make position reports in your game? I can't believe that this idiot is so clueless. (Not Scott) Would someone with a good book that covers about everything in today's flying, PLEASE send it to him. I'll even kick in to buy one, if it would stop all of these stupid questions. -- Jim in NC |
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BT writes:
if you are making position reports do you not then have flight following? No, they are two different things. Normally you have one or the other. If you have flight following, ATC has you on radar, and they don't need position reports, as they know exactly where you are. If you don't have flight following (because you haven't requested it, or ATC has refused it, or you are not visible on radar), you can make periodic position reports, so that people know where you are, in case you crash. From what I understand, you try to report to a FSS if you are making position reports, but I'm not sure of the other details. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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"Morgans" writes:
"Scott Post" wrote in message ... In article , Mxsmanic wrote: Scott Post writes: You do realize that a radio isn't required for VFR flight, right? Yes, just as you surely realize that making position reports aids S&R if you should happen to go down for any reason (if you have not requested flight following from ATC). You do make position reports when flying over long distances, don't you? Surely you aren't planning to make position reports in your game? I can't believe that this idiot is so clueless. (Not Scott) Would someone with a good book that covers about everything in today's flying, PLEASE send it to him. I'll even kick in to buy one, if it would stop all of these stupid questions. A few years ago, when I was still in grad school, I picked up an old Jeppesen private pilot textbook on eBay for $5. If Mxsmanic can't afford that, then I am not sure how he feeds himself. If we are talking about something that cheap, hell, I'll chip in too. Chris |
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VFR position reporting
Yes. Most of the time they don't, though.
Jay, are you ready to admit defeat, and cut MX loose, yet? I'm just wondering. I think you might be a pretty good barometer of the others in the group that are still answering his questions. I know you did support him (and still may) but I sure wish we would do like the simulator group, and start shutting him out. He will never be a positive contribution to this group, or to general aviation. -- Jim in NC |
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I agree Jim... but Mxs is a non pilot..
it is a matter of semantics.. BT "Jim Macklin" wrote in message ... Not necessarily. Read the AIM. "BT" wrote in message ... | if you are making position reports | do you not then have flight following? | BT | | "Mxsmanic" wrote in message | ... | I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position reports if you | are flying VFR over long distances without flight following. To whom | do you report your position, and what information should it include? | Which positions do you report and how often? | | -- | Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. | | |
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ok.. so once again the non pilot asking so many questions knows better than
30yr multi thousand hour pilots. I fully understand the "radar flight following", but I can make position reports to FSS and they will know where to begin looking for me (between my last report and my intended destination), so they would have a "flight following paper trail" of where I have been, even if it is not real time radar. From what you tend to know or have about flight following or position reporting, that same book will (should) have the format for position reporting. Oh, while you've got them on the line, give them a pilot report. BT "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... BT writes: if you are making position reports do you not then have flight following? No, they are two different things. Normally you have one or the other. If you have flight following, ATC has you on radar, and they don't need position reports, as they know exactly where you are. If you don't have flight following (because you haven't requested it, or ATC has refused it, or you are not visible on radar), you can make periodic position reports, so that people know where you are, in case you crash. From what I understand, you try to report to a FSS if you are making position reports, but I'm not sure of the other details. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
... "Jim Macklin" writes: Although VFR position reports are usually given directly to FSS Radio on one of the frequencies publish on the sectional chart or in the AFD, you can give a VFR position report to ATC even if you are not in radar contact, just call Center [call sign] VFR position report. They will be able to record the report and are happy to do so, particularly in remote areas. This is good to know. I thought only FSS was willing to take position reports, and that you had to request flight following with ATC in order to have them record your position. It's "on the tape", that way, and in the event of an overdue aircraft, all records along the flight path are checked for contact with the missing aircraft. The ATC if he has time may even hit the hotline to the local FSS and pass the information. B |
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How did the sim group shut him out? Please share it with the rest of us so
we can do the same. Actually I'm going to France next summer- perhaps I should look him up and give him a stack of old charts and books. Besides, I've never seen a real live troll before. |
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