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Only to your posts. I've observed responses of yours to other's posts that were just as stupid as your responses to mine. I guess I've learned well from you. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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"Teacherjh" wrote in message ... I guess I've learned well from you. Unfortunately, it appears you haven't learned anything at all. |
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Unfortunately, it appears you haven't learned anything at all.
Next to a master like you, my abilities are less than a faint candle. Seriously - you respond in a very minimalist style - the absolute least you can say that states your point or makes your challenge. Though I've learned stuff from you, you do not post nearly enough supporting material to make the correctness of your points clear (when they are correct). Since you do the same when your points are matters of opinion, or are (gasp!) wrong, it becomes an excercise in frustration to have a discussion that goes beyond mere acceptance of the pearls of wisdom dropping from your ruby red lips. So while "reading carefully" sometimes reveals gems, more often it does not, and the putative bandwidth economy thus practiced leads to the expenditure of many more ones and zeros than should be warranted. We're running out of ones. (zeros are still in great supply). Sometimes minimalism doesn't achieve the presumed goal. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message news Your misconceptions are astounding. That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective deterrent anyhow. It's deterred everyone that's received it. So is life without parole. So I get to pay to keep people in food, shelter and entertainment for doing bad things? No thanks. It warmed my heart when I moved to the south a few years back to see convict road crews doing work. Now, maybe it costs us more to pay the guards to watch them and for insurance, etc, but at least we get something out of it. |
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"Richard Hertz" wrote in message .net... So I get to pay to keep people in food, shelter and entertainment for doing bad things? No thanks. Hey, I don't like it either, but that's a separate issue from the deterrent effect of different types of punishment. |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:46:36 GMT, "Richard Hertz"
wrote: It warmed my heart when I moved to the south a few years back to see convict road crews doing work. Now, maybe it costs us more to pay the guards to watch them and for insurance, etc, but at least we get something out of it. My two ¢: Convict laborers displace regular workers. A far better solution would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are compensated. But the prison systems have become cash cows for private enterprise. Prison operating contractors have no financial incentive to rehabilitate inmates. Quite the opposite, there is incentive to create more inmates, so that more prisons will be built and Wackinhut's business will increase. Corporate self interest is at the root of many of society's ills. |
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Convict laborers displace regular workers.
Regular workers displace other regular workers. A far better solution would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are compensated. Assuming you mean with money, where do they get this money? If they work for it, that displaces other workers. If they don't work for it, this uses up paper and green ink. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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Richard Hertz wrote: So I get to pay to keep people in food, shelter and entertainment for doing bad things? No thanks. I just look at it as a bribe I pay the State to keep these people away from me. George Patterson None of us is as dumb as all of us. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:46:36 GMT, "Richard Hertz" wrote: It warmed my heart when I moved to the south a few years back to see convict road crews doing work. Now, maybe it costs us more to pay the guards to watch them and for insurance, etc, but at least we get something out of it. My two ¢: Convict laborers displace regular workers. A far better solution would be to teach them the meaning of the word 'restitution.' That way they truly pay for their crimes, and their victims are compensated. But the prison systems have become cash cows for private enterprise. Prison operating contractors have no financial incentive to rehabilitate inmates. Quite the opposite, there is incentive to create more inmates, so that more prisons will be built and Wackinhut's business will increase. Corporate self interest is at the root of many of society's ills. Um, no. Self-interest of humans is the root of many ills. Particularly from criminals. if corporations behave in illegal manners, they are punished, so too should criminals be punished. Blaming "corporations" for the failing of people is a cop out. |
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