"Rolling" to ATC

chris writes:

I have found since then, that for every dodgy pilot I meet there are
several good ones ...

Yeah, but it only takes one bad one to spoil your whole day (and mess
up the statistics).

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On Feb 5, 4:14 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
chris writes:
I have found since then, that for every dodgy pilot I meet there are
several good ones ...

Yeah, but it only takes one bad one to spoil your whole day (and mess
up the statistics).

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Thankfully our club has not lost an aircraft for a very long time..
Private owners I can't speak for, but I think the club environment is
good for keeping people's flying at a safe level, those outside the
club system can do whatever they like for the two years in between
flight reviews, and some of it can be downright shocking! I don't
have anything to back that up except a gut feeling, and knowing our
instructors I see the standard they require of club members.

There has been a couple of minor dings but I think the last crash of a
club plane was about 15 years ago.. And they all walked away from it.

Tony wrote:
If tower says clear for immediate takeoff, I announce 'rolling'. They
can tell ATC.



Who is "they"? And what have they done with ATC?

If your takeoff clearance includes "no delay" due to landing traffic
behind you, then the "rolling" information could be of some use to the
controller. However, this is not something that is widely used. I
suspect it is because the controller cannot simply rely on your
transmission for his decision to issue a landing clearance.

Thats a good guess Andy.Did anyone ask what you "Suspect".Are you a
pilot?

"chris" wrote

I dunno what country you fly in, but I am talking about New Zealand,
and the rules here are obviously somewhat different to wherever you
fly..

Wow, you have to read back about everything.

What is there that you DO NOT have to read back?

Seriously?
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On Feb 5, 4:44 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"chris" wrote

I dunno what country you fly in, but I am talking about New Zealand,
and the rules here are obviously somewhat different to wherever you
fly..

Wow, you have to read back about everything.

What is there that you DO NOT have to read back?

Seriously?
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Jim in NC

Yeah, there are things you don't have to read back, but if it's an
instruction you'd still have to acknowledge it - Wilco is usually
appropriate.. I am struggling to actually bring an example to mind.
Something like 'report orbit complete' or 'report complete over the
city' or 'report sighting Golden Eagle passing your 2 o'clock five
miles'

Any other Kiwi pilots listening in like to jump in here and help me
out?? I certainly recognise when to read back and when not to, when
I'm actually doing it, a bit hard to think up a good example right now
though..

Morgans writes:

Wow, you have to read back about everything.

You make it sound like it's a bad thing to read back. Why wouldn't
you read back something important like a take-off clearance?

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Mxsmanic,

I couldn't find any mention of this phrase in the AIM
or FARs.


That provides a nice clue, doesn't it?

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Dave,

Mx HAS MADE IT CLEAR he has not flown a plane as PIC.


Where in the statement Casey attached his warning to did he do that? As
I read, he did quite the contrary: He desperately tried to give the
impression he did real flying.

Not everybody here follows every post. And with that in mind, MX is an
imposter.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)