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Actually, FrontPage 2000 and 2002 are fine for professioanl level stuff as
long as you; 1.) Set the defaults to not have FP change your code 2.) Check your code to make sure it is compliant with whatever spec you declare at the top of your code base at W3C 3.) tweak the little things like META TAGS, title and margin tags We have used FP for 7 years and have built sites for some fortune 100 companies with it. You need to know HTML to know what to fine tune but FP is fine for those who understand it. ALSO, never use frames if you want to rank well in any of the search engines. Frames and iframes break search engine spiders and iframes still don't work in Netscape. IF you check your server logs, you are probably looking at about 2% Netscape usage and about 87% Internet Explorer. Desiging for Netscape is moot point nowadays unless you KNOW you have clients on it or are building a general shopping cart application. From an SEO standpoint, (if you want to be found in the search engines) keep your code clean and up to W3C standards, no matter what editor you use, build great content and get as many in-bound links as you can. James Taylor CEO ww.AICompany.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/2003 |
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Roger Halstead wrote in message . ..
Never create one in Front Page. It creates huge files of bloat code and adds about 3 to 5 pages of definitions at the beginning. I only used composer a couple of times and it took several days to get the page back to normal, but FP is bad and saving in HTML from a Word doc is worse. No screamin'. I did a test once - saving a single unformatted sentence from Word as HTML yielded about thirty lines of code. A couple of years ago I redid a site that had been done in FP (http://www.hoffmanguitars.com/). I essentially started over rather than try to salvage the FP files. Personally, I prefer Macromedia Dreamweaver. It rarely gets clever and tries to read your mind the way MS products do. Corrie - doing this for a living since 1993. |
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Corrie wrote: Scott wrote in message ... Ha! REAL REAL Men write in Machine Language! We don't need no stinkin' mnemonics!! C9 22 FF E0 10 1C ... = Scott http://corbenflyer.tripod.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParasolAirplanes Building RV-4 Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! Richard Lamb wrote: Balderdash! Real men write in Assembly! My dad was a senior systems engineer for IBM. He used to debug VMS by dumping core to the line printer and reading the hex... Being second-generation, I cut my teeth on FORTRAN. Then minicomputers came along and I learned a little assembler - you needed it with CP/M. But I've forgotten most of it, just a few mnemonics: PD - punch disk PDO - punch disk operator FCM - flush core memory DEO - do everything over Corrie The early apples reputedly had a HCF instruction. Halt and Catch Fire. Which it would do! |
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The fix, for you, is to update to a current web browser. I recommend Mozilla. Mozilla is the browser upon which the latest Netscape is based. With Mozilla, you'll get the best browser sans the commercial trappings of its Netscape derivative. Once you've experience the tabbed browsing features of Mozilla, you'll never look back. A Mozilla hint: Set preferences so that your middle mouse button (mouse wheel depress) opens a new tab in Mozilla when clicked on a link. Also, set preferences to load new tabs in the background. Another great feature in Mozilla is pop-up control, either globally or on a per-site basis. Don't like that pop-up? Simple, right click it and select "Disallow pop-ups from this site". Mozilla rocks. Don't let the mozilla web site confuse you, it's geared towards programmers and offers ancillary programs that you don't need. All you need is the latest stable release of Mozilla for your platform (Mozilla 1.4 as of this post). Look in the upper left hand corner for the correct download link. http://www.mozilla.org David O -- http://www.AirplaneZone.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dave, Mozilla.... ROCKS? I've been "Netscaping" for years, although I've kept Mozilla handy - just in case. Not sure why I never did the opposite. Old habits die hard? Given your expert recommendation... Mozilla is my new default browser. Barnyard BOb - Tastes great while less filling |
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Thanks to you and Roger.
David O wrote: Warren & Nancy wrote: All right you computer guys! Why is it that there are more and more web sites that Netscape can't read? How are they programming, and why? Damn, it's frustrating! Warren HTML is an evolving specification. What your old browser knows of HTML 4.01 and style sheets is likely wrong and/or incomplete, hence the poor rendering. Style sheets are here to stay -- they obviate the need for much of the formatting that litters older HTML code. As more web programmers migrate to the new specification, more web pages will fail to render correctly in older browsers. The fix, for you, is to update to a current web browser. I recommend Mozilla. Mozilla is the browser upon which the latest Netscape is based. With Mozilla, you'll get the best browser sans the commercial trappings of its Netscape derivative. Once you've experience the tabbed browsing features of Mozilla, you'll never look back. A Mozilla hint: Set preferences so that your middle mouse button (mouse wheel depress) opens a new tab in Mozilla when clicked on a link. Also, set preferences to load new tabs in the background. Another great feature in Mozilla is pop-up control, either globally or on a per-site basis. Don't like that pop-up? Simple, right click it and select "Disallow pop-ups from this site". Mozilla rocks. Don't let the mozilla web site confuse you, it's geared towards programmers and offers ancillary programs that you don't need. All you need is the latest stable release of Mozilla for your platform (Mozilla 1.4 as of this post). Look in the upper left hand corner for the correct download link. http://www.mozilla.org David O -- http://www.AirplaneZone.com |
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In article , Roger Halstead
writes: Ever since having been a customer of AOL way back in the early days I've had an aversions to anything with the letters AOL in it. However It sounds like it might be worthwhile investigating. Not that Word and FP don't create nice looking and functional pages. They do. It's just they use about five times as much resources than what are needed. Plus the source code is difficult to read as much of it is calls. Thanks, Bob, I understand you aversion to AOL and had it not been for the fact that AOL was so readily available anywhere that I traveled I would have dropped it long ago too. As it turns out now, I am having less problems with it than my daughter has had with a half dozen different suppliers she has tried. As far a the AOLPRESS product is concerned, it was an early attempt by AOL to make creation of home pages easy for their users. I don't know why they decided to not continue support but the product is still available and works well. I use it to maintain my own web page because I feel that I spend too much time on the web site anyway and don't want to spend even more. The only hitch I have found is that the JPG photos produced by most digital cameras must be edited and saved before they can be used in your web page. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman) |
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:28:12 -0700, Ed Wischmeyer
wrote: XP! - excecute programmer immediate NEW ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE COMMANDS AAR alter at random ABW add backwards AFV add finagle's variable constant AWT assemble with tinker toys BAC branch to alpha centauri BAF blow all fuses BCI branch creating infinite loop BDC break down and cry BFR belch fire BDT burn data tree BRG burn registers BWM branch on whim CHV create havoc CMD compare meaningless data CML compute meaning of life COL crash for operator's lunch break CRS continue running after stop or halt CSL curse and swear loudly CVG convert to garbage DBU destroy backup DBZ divide by zero DDC dally during calculations DMR dump memory to russians DOC drive operator crazy DLN don't look now... DPI define pi DPR destroy program DSF destroy source file DTC destroy this command DTV destroy third variable from left DWD destroy world (global thermonuclear war) EAD erase all disks ECO electrocute computer operator EIA execute in any order ENF emit noxious fumes FLI flash lights impressively FSM fold spindle and mutilate GCA get correct answer regardless (must be followed by SCCA) HCF halt and catch fire HIB hang innocent bystander HOP hang operator ISC insert sarcastic comments JTZ jump to twilight zone LPA lead programmer astray MAZ multiply answer by zero MWT malfunction without telling OML obey murphy's laws PHC punch extra holes in cards PNR print nasty replies to programmer RAN randomize answer RCB read commands backwards RDA refuse to disclose answer RLI rotate left indefinitely RPM read programmer's mind SAI skip all instructions SCC short circuit on correct answer SFH set flags to half mast SRD shift right, double rediculous TAW trash always TEV trash everything TLO turn indicator lights off TPD tell programmer to do it him/herself TSR trash and stay resident TTA try, try again WSW work in strange and wondrous ways Check out "A Real Programmer, The Story of Mel" on my web page. Note the 'created with' icon at the bottom of the page. (Roger, you can review my html code) - John (terse code) Ousterhout - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/ |
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"John Ousterhout" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:28:12 -0700, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: XP! - excecute programmer immediate NEW ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE COMMANDS You're missing the infamous HCF...Halt and Catch Fire instruction. A friend of mine went to a new startup called "CatchFire Systems." He swears it's only coincidentally related to HCF. Of course, the other fun one was the new UNIX errno value: ELECTROLUX ... Your code needs cleaning up. |
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In article ,
Corrie wrote: Scott wrote in message ... Ha! REAL REAL Men write in Machine Language! We don't need no stinkin' mnemonics!! C9 22 FF E0 10 1C ... = Scott http://corbenflyer.tripod.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParasolAirplanes Building RV-4 Gotta Fly or Gonna Die! Richard Lamb wrote: Balderdash! Real men write in Assembly! My dad was a senior systems engineer for IBM. He used to debug VMS by dumping core to the line printer and reading the hex... Being second-generation, I cut my teeth on FORTRAN. Then minicomputers came along and I learned a little assembler - you needed it with CP/M. But I've forgotten most of it, just a few mnemonics: PD - punch disk PDO - punch disk operator FCM - flush core memory DEO - do everything over From the late 60s/ early 70s, the "IBM OVER-EXTENDED MNEMONICS" list included: HCF halt and catch fire BCEG Branch on CE grounded BBBO Branch on bit-bucket overflow BBBB branch and bite baudy bit BLRA branch and lose return address BRL Branch to random location CRN convert to roman numerals TPD triple pack decimal ROM read operator's mind (*NEVER* implemented) BCP backspace card punch RLP rewind line printer SLP sharpen light pen PC punch card PT punch tape PO punch operator FSRA Form skip and runaway There were a couple of _hundred_ such on the 'over-extended mnemonics'list. These ar a handfull from memory, from not having seen the actual list ins 20+ years. |
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In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote: "John Ousterhout" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:28:12 -0700, Ed Wischmeyer wrote: XP! - excecute programmer immediate NEW ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE COMMANDS You're missing the infamous HCF...Halt and Catch Fire instruction. A friend of mine went to a new startup called "CatchFire Systems." He swears it's only coincidentally related to HCF. Of course, the other fun one was the new UNIX errno value: ELECTROLUX ... Your code needs cleaning up. a few others: EFLAT ... file system needs tuning EEEEEEEE ... speaker too close to microphone. EIEIO ... "Bug, bug, here, bug, bug, there, here a bug, there a bug....." I was there, _at_ that conference where the "invent an error message" contest was held, that all these came from. The winner, by acclamation -- *after* it was explained to the Brits that threw it out in the preliminary judging -- was: EMR_ED "A host is a host, from coast to coast, And no one will talk to a host that's close. Unless, of course, the host that isn't close, is either down, or hung, or dead." It got a _standing_ovation_ from the entire room of 1000+ techies, when it was read. |
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