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Somehow a version of my "Gloom" post (which I also posted on the
Cherokee Pilots Association's "Cherokee Chat") ended up in Phil Boyer's in-box. AOPA President Boyer apparently questioned Piper's management about the status of Piper's support (or reported lack thereof) of our "ancient" aircraft, prompting the following statement from Mark S. Miller, Chief Corporate Spokesperson of Piper Aircraft, Inc.: "Contrary to rumors, inaccurate representations and misinterpretations in respect to Piper Aircraft's position on parts availability, Piper has not and will not set a cutoff date for spare parts availability. Published reports that Piper President & CEO Jim Bass announced such a cutoff are unfounded and untrue. Piper maintains a total of more than 15,000 active spare parts and manages a total of approximately 25,000 spare parts. Our goal is to try and support all certified models that we have produced in our 70-year history whenever possible." Ah, spin control. Some day I want to have a "Chief Corporate Spokesperson" in my company who will clarify and sanitize all the stupid things *I* say... :-) Seriously, however, I think the clamor (especially amongst members of the Cherokee Pilots Association) over Piper CEO Bass's speech at last weekend's CPA fly-in is truly an example of a victory for us "little guys". In my opinion, Mr. Bass was either floating a trial balloon idea about cutting off support for old, out-of-production aircraft, or he just got carried away during his speech and injected his own personal opinions. Either way, this reaction -- sudden, vociferous, succinct, loud, and unanimous -- from the pilot community has effectively and surely shot it down. Suddenly, there is less to be gloomy about! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:31:59 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote in om: In my opinion, Mr. Bass was either floating a trial balloon idea about cutting off support for old, out-of-production aircraft, or he just got carried away during his speech and injected his own personal opinions. Either way, this reaction -- sudden, vociferous, succinct, loud, and unanimous -- from the pilot community has effectively and surely shot it down. From his statement, it seems to me that nothing could be further from the truth. He is merely saying Piper has no date certain for cutting off the supply of spare parts. Likely they just won't be manufactured, and existing stocks of parts will be allowed to run out as they are shipped to customers over time. |
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In article om,
Jay Honeck wrote: Somehow a version of my "Gloom" post (which I also posted on the Cherokee Pilots Association's "Cherokee Chat") ended up in Phil Boyer's in-box. AOPA President Boyer apparently questioned Piper's management about the status of Piper's support (or reported lack thereof) of our "ancient" aircraft, prompting the following statement from Mark S. Miller, Chief Corporate Spokesperson of Piper Aircraft, Inc.: "Contrary to rumors, inaccurate representations and misinterpretations in respect to Piper Aircraft's position on parts availability, So, Bass either lied or didn't know what he was talking about. Hardly encouraging. [snip] In my opinion, Mr. Bass was either floating a trial balloon idea about cutting off support for old, out-of-production aircraft, or he just got carried away during his speech and injected his own personal opinions. Neither of those options speak well for Bass or Piper. :-( -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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Recently, Jay Honeck posted:
Somehow a version of my "Gloom" post (which I also posted on the Cherokee Pilots Association's "Cherokee Chat") ended up in Phil Boyer's in-box. AOPA President Boyer apparently questioned Piper's management about the status of Piper's support (or reported lack thereof) of our "ancient" aircraft, prompting the following statement from Mark S. Miller, Chief Corporate Spokesperson of Piper Aircraft, Inc.: "Contrary to rumors, inaccurate representations and misinterpretations in respect to Piper Aircraft's position on parts availability, Piper has not and will not set a cutoff date for spare parts availability. Published reports that Piper President & CEO Jim Bass announced such a cutoff are unfounded and untrue. Piper maintains a total of more than 15,000 active spare parts and manages a total of approximately 25,000 spare parts. Our goal is to try and support all certified models that we have produced in our 70-year history whenever possible." In other words, "...we won't do anything to negatively impact the ability to unload our existing inventory..." [...] In my opinion, Mr. Bass was either floating a trial balloon idea about cutting off support for old, out-of-production aircraft, or he just got carried away during his speech and injected his own personal opinions. Either way, this reaction -- sudden, vociferous, succinct, loud, and unanimous -- from the pilot community has effectively and surely shot it down. Suddenly, there is less to be gloomy about! I didn't "hear" anything different from your original post, Jay. Neil |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:07:12 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote in : I didn't "hear" anything different from your original post, Jay. You'll find that Robert Poole, the Reason Foundation's founder who has been pushing hard for user fees, employs the same corporate double-speak: (Click here (http://www.avweb.com/alm?podcast20070618) to listen to the Reason Foundation's Robert Poole on why aviation user fees would be good for airspace users.) |
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1182317519.821816.6690
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: Ah, spin control. Some day I want to have a "Chief Corporate Spokesperson" in my company who will clarify and sanitize all the stupid things *I* say... :-) There aren't enough hours in the day or enough skilled communicators in the trade to handle that assignment. |
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"Tom Guess" wrote in message
... Jay Honeck wrote in news:1182317519.821816.6690 @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: Ah, spin control. Some day I want to have a "Chief Corporate Spokesperson" in my company who will clarify and sanitize all the stupid things *I* say... :-) There aren't enough hours in the day or enough skilled communicators in the trade to handle that assignment. Better put a " :~) " after that. |
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In article om,
Jay Honeck wrote: In my opinion, Mr. Bass was either floating a trial balloon idea about cutting off support for old, out-of-production aircraft, or he just got carried away during his speech and injected his own personal opinions. Either way, this reaction -- sudden, vociferous, succinct, loud, and unanimous -- from the pilot community has effectively and surely shot it down. Quite frankly, I don't see anything in Piper's statement that retracts anything. All the statement appears to say is that Piper hasn't set a piston-engine "date for death" right now. Noticeably absent from the statement is any long-term commitment to the piston business, probably because there isn't any. JKG |
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Quite frankly, I don't see anything in Piper's statement that retracts
anything. All the statement appears to say is that Piper hasn't set a piston-engine "date for death" right now. Noticeably absent from the statement is any long-term commitment to the piston business, probably because there isn't any. Wow -- just when I thought that *I* was the most cynical, hard-headed ******* out there, you guys go and prove me wrong. Thanks! :-) Seriously, I think you're being too hard on them. Piper has been forced to respond to what we heard Bass say in that speech last weekend. They are publicly denying that there are any plans to cut off support for older planes -- which, unless they are REALLY being diabolical, can only be good news for those of us who are flying around in "antique" planes. (What *is* the defininition of "antique" now, anyway? My plane is now 33 years old -- where's the cut-off?) (And, hell, while we're at it, why is "publicly" also properly spelled "publically"? Inquiring minds on a sunny June day.... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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They are publicly denying that there are any plans to cut
off support for older planes... But that talk is cheap. The expensive talk is what we don't hear. "Piper =will= =continue= to supply parts for =all= the airplanes it has =ever= manufactured, for as long as we are in business." (and even that doesn't say that they won't charge $700 for a $2 microswitch.) Jose -- You can choose whom to befriend, but you cannot choose whom to love. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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