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What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?



 
 
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Old July 5th 11, 03:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Gary[_5_]
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2
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Old July 5th 11, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

It's about riggers wanting to sell you a new parachute rather than packing a
perfectly serviceable item.

I posted a similar question almost a year ago and was met with a barage of
questions about what my life is worth, etc. Totally useless replies.

In the US there is no life limit on your parachute if it will pass all
required tests and inspections. The trick is to find a rigger who will
accept the work. I was fortunate in this regard and my 37 year old Pioneer
Thin Pack is still in service. It will remain in service as long as it is
serviceable.


"Gary" wrote in message
...
I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2


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Old July 5th 11, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Remde
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

Hi,

I recently had a conversation with Dan at Para-Phernalia. They have
recently put a note in their manual stating that the life limit is 20 years.
They do that for liability reasons. I can't say I blame them - after seeing
how some pilot take care (not) of their parachutes.

I sell the Para-Phernalia Softie parachutes. They are great products.

Paul Remde

"Dan Marotta" wrote in message
...
It's about riggers wanting to sell you a new parachute rather than packing
a perfectly serviceable item.

I posted a similar question almost a year ago and was met with a barage of
questions about what my life is worth, etc. Totally useless replies.

In the US there is no life limit on your parachute if it will pass all
required tests and inspections. The trick is to find a rigger who will
accept the work. I was fortunate in this regard and my 37 year old
Pioneer Thin Pack is still in service. It will remain in service as long
as it is serviceable.


"Gary" wrote in message
...
I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2



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Old July 5th 11, 07:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:14:58 -0700, Gary wrote:

I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2


20 would be good. The manufacturer of my chute lifed it at 15 years.

Frank Whiteley
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Old July 5th 11, 08:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy Durbin
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

At 14:14 05 July 2011, Gary wrote:
I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2


Neither I, nor to the best of my knowledge my rigger, have a concern that
my chute is over 20 years old.

I've owned it since new and know how it has been taken care of. However
I would not consider buying a chute that was over 20 years old.

Andy

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Old July 5th 11, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Remde
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

Hi Andy,

Good point. As long as it is a parachute that I took good care of, I
imagine it would be fine after 20 years. But I also wouldn't buy a used
parachute that is that old.

Paul Remde

"Andy Durbin" wrote in message
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At 14:14 05 July 2011, Gary wrote:
I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2


Neither I, nor to the best of my knowledge my rigger, have a concern that
my chute is over 20 years old.

I've owned it since new and know how it has been taken care of. However
I would not consider buying a chute that was over 20 years old.

Andy


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Old July 6th 11, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Scott Alexander[_2_]
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

Check EBay they have some good parachutes listed from time to time.


My sister and her husband are both parachute riggers. They both repair
old parachutes. I asked them last week over dinner the same question
you are asking. Both said that as long as a parachute is still in good
condition and will pass the repack inspection, not to worry.

Buy an old parachute of eBay and use your extra cash for other glider
stuff.
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Old July 6th 11, 09:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Chris Rollings[_2_]
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

I think you may find it's a manufacturere stipulated thing (at least in
some cases), like a TBO on engines in powered airplanes.

At 00:31 06 July 2011, Scott Alexander wrote:
Check EBay they have some good parachutes listed from time to time.


My sister and her husband are both parachute riggers. They both repair
old parachutes. I asked them last week over dinner the same question
you are asking. Both said that as long as a parachute is still in good
condition and will pass the repack inspection, not to worry.

Buy an old parachute of eBay and use your extra cash for other glider
stuff.


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Old July 6th 11, 10:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jim Cook
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

At 14:14 05 July 2011, Gary wrote:
I apoligize of this has been discussed in the past. Looking for a used
chute I keep running into talk of 20 year life span for parachutes. Is
it solely up to the rigger to pack or refuse a chute that age?

Still looking for a used chute that will not break the bank after
recently buying an ASW-20.

Thanks, Gary Adams GA2

I used to have my 20+ year old parachute packed by a very senior inspector
who told me that the life span of a parachute was precisely six months; the
recommended time between inspections. If the chute passed it's inspection
then there was no reason to get rid of it.
When I sold the parachute,along with a glider,the new owners took it to a
different inspector who advised them to buy a new one because of it's
age.
Best plan seems to be to find an inspector that you trust and take his
advice.

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Old July 6th 11, 10:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BruceGreeff
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Default What's the deal with 20 year life span on chutes?

My rigger was happy to repack until 32+ years old. When the stitching on
the webbing started showing age damage - so now I need to replace it
before next repack. 1979-2011 is not bad...

The fabric and shrouds all tested fine, the container is good.
Just the stitching.

Bruce

On 2011/07/06 2:31 AM, Scott Alexander wrote:
Check EBay they have some good parachutes listed from time to time.


My sister and her husband are both parachute riggers. They both repair
old parachutes. I asked them last week over dinner the same question
you are asking. Both said that as long as a parachute is still in good
condition and will pass the repack inspection, not to worry.

Buy an old parachute of eBay and use your extra cash for other glider
stuff.


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Bruce Greeff
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