Absolute lowest altitude you can fly (legally)

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 05:25:47 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Michael Rhodes writes:

If YOU don't know, and refuse to take the suggested courses, then you
can buy books and magazines and read them in YOUR spare time like I
did.

Within the limits of my modest resources, I do.

Oh your so modest. You must pat yourself on the back for it every
day.

But I suspect you may have burden you 'care' to 'share'. You really
(yes, REALLY!) should rid yourself of all those pet dogs eating at
your household budget. And the technique for doing that is putting
them 'to sleep'. 'Putting them away' is what we call it on the farm,
as we load the most convenient weapon. Send them this way and that is
what they'll get; not the pity of one with "modest resources", but the
conviction of one who knows what to do with what is obvious Trouble.

Fortunately, I did not have a simulator I might pretend as real
to take their place, then think to rudely harass someone, or a bunch
of someones (how pompous!) on the internet for free instruction.

Odd that anyone would see questions as harassment. The only time I
encounter that is when people don't know the answers to the questions,
and dread anyone else finding that out.

A lame lie, lame insult.

There are some excellent authors, both book and magazine, who are
quite public and not expensive. AND there are some excellent web
sites which also have good info and make an effort to not be so dry.

I do research.

Then apply it, if you're so capable.

But written materials can be held in hand and pondered at your own
pace. The web is too brief, and cluttered; as is this news group, for
that matter.

The Web, however, is free.

Have you no shame? It is apparent that you do not, while working so
hard to pretend you do; thinking to get away with it by the pity of
'modest resources'. You, and the rest of your noisy group intent on
noise, are 'modestly' evil. You are not what you claim to be.

Are you gathering bunches of undigestable tidbits to send to Africa or
something? Such will NOT save mankind. No one ever said they would.

Something is VERY out of perspective!
--
Mike

Mxsmanic wrote:
Viperdoc writes:

Why didn't you try to look it up first?

The FARs are rather large.

And your point is?

Those of us in the US read them, all of them, cover to cover. Repeatedly.
And get tested on them on a recurring, regular basis. You want to
ask questions? Fine, but having access to the FARs - which you do --
and reading them -- which you refuse to do -- are the the ground rules
for being here.

Not only that, but those of us with current medicals, and follow
US FAA "rules" have our own printed copies. Why? Because one of
the rules is that we are required to have "all available information"
for each and every flight. Each and every one of us in the US
are fair game for a ramp check.

You want to play here following US FAA rules -- which you've repeatedly
stated you do -- fine. Then learn the rules. We did. Not only that,
but we struggled to learn the rules so that we could play the game.

Don't like the rules of the game? Go play another one, somewhere
else, with someone else. Stop wasting bandwidth.

Ron Natalie wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
What regulations determine the absolute lowest altitude you can fly
above the ground in the U.S.?

The ground level.

I've been waiting for this one!

Blanche wrote:


Those of us in the US read them, all of them, cover to cover. Repeatedly.


Sheesh, I'm way behind the average.





Not only that, but those of us with current medicals, and follow
US FAA "rules" have our own printed copies. Why? Because one of
the rules is that we are required to have "all available information"
for each and every flight. Each and every one of us in the US
are fair game for a ramp check.


My guess is less than 10% of pilots have the FAR's with them at any
given time. You're pretty optimistic about your fellow pilots.

On 01/03/07 19:48, Newps wrote:

Blanche wrote:


Those of us in the US read them, all of them, cover to cover. Repeatedly.


Sheesh, I'm way behind the average.





Not only that, but those of us with current medicals, and follow
US FAA "rules" have our own printed copies. Why? Because one of
the rules is that we are required to have "all available information"
for each and every flight. Each and every one of us in the US
are fair game for a ramp check.


My guess is less than 10% of pilots have the FAR's with them at any
given time. You're pretty optimistic about your fellow pilots.



I've read them cover to cover more than a few times and carry them
with me when I fly. Both FAR and AIM.


--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

I've never heard the requirement of having a book of FAR/AIM for a ramp
check.

These days you can read the entire FAR/AIM online. I don't see the
need for a hard copy anymore.

As far as "all available information" goes, how many pilots have the
current VFR chart update Bulletins?


Not only that, but those of us with current medicals, and follow
US FAA "rules" have our own printed copies. Why? Because one of
the rules is that we are required to have "all available information"
for each and every flight. Each and every one of us in the US
are fair game for a ramp check.


My guess is less than 10% of pilots have the FAR's with them at any
given time. You're pretty optimistic about your fellow pilots.

On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:42:52 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote:

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Ron,
The ground level.

Ground level is a regulation? gd&r

It's a well-grounded law.

And *rigidly* enforced!

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Michael Rhodes writes:

A lame lie, lame insult.

Unfortunately, it is neither. People who wish to seem informed and
make the mistake of talking about things they don't really know that
well often become extremely defensive when they are called on their
ignorance, and they rapidly resort to personal attacks in an attempt
at self-defense that I suppose one could qualify as "lame."

Then apply it, if you're so capable.

I do. But I often have questions that have not been answered by my
research.

I don't understand the rest of your post.

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Blanche writes:

And your point is?

That it can be difficult and/or time-consuming to find details in
them.

Those of us in the US read them, all of them, cover to cover. Repeatedly.

Of course.

Not only that, but those of us with current medicals, and follow
US FAA "rules" have our own printed copies. Why? Because one of
the rules is that we are required to have "all available information"
for each and every flight. Each and every one of us in the US
are fair game for a ramp check.

"All available information" is subject to interpretation. You don't
have the entire U.S. Code, and yet it is available information.

You want to play here following US FAA rules -- which you've repeatedly
stated you do -- fine.

The FARs don't cover USENET.

Then learn the rules. We did. Not only that,
but we struggled to learn the rules so that we could play the game.

In deep snowdrifts and barefooted, I presume?

Don't like the rules of the game? Go play another one, somewhere
else, with someone else. Stop wasting bandwidth.

If you don't like my posts, you need not read or reply to them.

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Duncan writes:

- did you see your instructor switch the transponder to standby?

Would he still be in radar contact below 100 feet AGL?

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