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New intsrument rating PTS
There is just about a month before the new instrument rating PTS takes
effect on October 1. This is a major re-write with standards for GPS and autopilot coupled approaches (now required if the aircraft is equipped), guidelines for partial panel approaches in aircraft with glass cockpits, and mandatory items to be covered during an instrument proficiency check. Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. If you are a CFII or instrument student you should be getting up to speed on this new PTS now. -- Christopher J. Campbell World Famous Flight Instructor Port Orchard, WA If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. Sounds good, for the most part, though I would question the elimination of the unusual attitude recoveries (though I must say that it never gave me any trouble for either the Private or Instrument training/checkride - so maybe that is what the Feds are thinking,,, most people have no trouble with it when tested so why have it'?' may be their rationale). Will be kind of curious to hear the take of the CFII's (like yourself) in this newsgroup on this new change. -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Student-IASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - |
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"Cecil Chapman" wrote: "C J Campbell" wrote in message Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. Sounds good, for the most part, though I would question the elimination of the unusual attitude recoveries (though I must say that it never gave me any trouble for either the Private or Instrument training/checkride - so maybe that is what the Feds are thinking,,, most people have no trouble with it when tested so why have it'?' may be their rationale). Will be kind of curious to hear the take of the CFII's (like yourself) in this newsgroup on this new change. -- I agree. I don't see much point in the stalls and steep turns, but the unusual attitude recoveries seem quite relevant. Most of us are flying behind the same vacuum gyros that have been in planes for decades. If you don't catch a failure quick enough, you'll be in a U/A and it would be nice to be able to fix the problem. In many ways, the new navigation systems (i.e. GPS with fancy flight plan features) reduce workload, but they also have the capability to increase it when having to do things like program in-flight reroutes or diversions. That's a lot of time diverted from watching the gyros and thus the potential for a U/A developing. And, of course, runaway or mis-programmed autopilots have the potential to put you in an U/A too. |
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C J Campbell wrote:
There is just about a month before the new instrument rating PTS takes effect on October 1. This is a major re-write with standards for GPS and autopilot coupled approaches (now required if the aircraft is equipped), guidelines for partial panel approaches in aircraft with glass cockpits, and mandatory items to be covered during an instrument proficiency check. Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. Unusual attitude recoveries have not been eliminated. They remain in the 4D instrument rating PTS, area of operation IV, task B. Also, while stalls and steep turns, as specific tasks, *have* been eliminated from the PTS, read this statement on page 14: "Emphasis on Attitude Instrument Flying and Emergency Instrument Procedures The FAA is concerned about numerous fatal aircraft accidents involving spatial disorientation of instrument-rated pilots who have attempted to control and maneuver their aircraft in clouds with inoperative primary flight instruments (gyroscopic heading and/or attitude indicators) or loss of the primary electronic flight instruments display. ***AREA OF OPERATION IV requires the evaluation of basic instrument flight maneuvers under both full-panel and references to backup primary flight instruments/electronic flight instrument displays. These maneuvers are described in detail in FAA-H-8083-15, Instrument Flying Handbook.*** Examiners should determine that the applicant demonstrates competency in either the PRIMARY and SUPPORTING or the CONTROL and PERFORMACE[sic] CONCEPT method of instrument flying. Either attitude instrument flying method is described in FAA-H-8083-15 and is recommended by the FAA because it requires specific knowledge and interpretation of each individual instrument during training. The FAA has stressed that it is imperative for instrument pilots to acquire and maintain adequate instrument skills and that they be capable of performing instrument flight with the use of the backup systems installed in the aircraft. Many light aircraft operated in IMC are not equipped with dual, independent, gyroscopic heading and/or attitude indicators and in many cases are equipped with only a single-vacuum source. Technically advanced aircraft may be equipped with backup flight instruments or an additional electronic flight display that is not located directly in front of the pilot." Now I don't claim to know, but since stalls and steep turns are described in H-8083-15, I wonder if some examiners and inspectors would take that to mean they're still fair game under IV.A. If you are a CFII or instrument student you should be getting up to speed on this new PTS now. Indubitably! -Ryan ATP, CFI (airplanes, helicopters) |
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"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. Sounds good, for the most part, though I would question the elimination of the unusual attitude recoveries Yeah, I meant to delete that reference. Unusual attitude recoveries are still required. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote
mandatory items to be covered during an instrument proficiency check This is not new. 8081-4C has had a list of mandatory items to be covered in an IPC, and that became effective in '99 with Change 2. Yes, I realize some people claim it wasn't mandatory before, but I think the article in the designee update (http://av-info.faa.gov/data/designee...du_jul2004.pdf) pretty much settles that issue. Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. When were stalls required? They're not in 8081-4C that I can find, and that dates back to '98. AFAIK, these are only required at the ATP level. Unusual attitude recoveries are alive and well, Area of Operation IV, Task B. Basic attitude instrument flying maneuvers are now combined into one task rather than being broken down into individual tasks, but they are still required. The new guidance is to test them as part of other maneuvers, but the examiner always had the discretion to do so, and in my experience most do. Which leaves us with steep turns. Near as I can tell, that's the only thing that has been eliminated. Michael |
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When I take on a new instrument student, pretty early we have a simulator
(PCATD) session in which I induce a vacuum failure. Without fail, they get into an unusual attitude and spiral in. It scares the hell out of them, and some humility creeps in. They pay attention to unusual attitude recovery training after that. When I do IPCs, I usually find that pilots don't pull the throttle when recognizing a high-speed dive, and they don't recognize that the airplane will climb on its own if they just level the wings with coordinated controls. Right after getting my instrument rating, I made a solo flight into the muck. After being surprised by an impromptu ATC hold at a VOR only a mile or so away, I foolishly started trying to set up the GPS for the hold, rather than just using the VOR. High workload and task fixation. Pretty quickly I found myself in a spiral dive. I recovered fine, but it was scary. Ever since, I have placed a high value on unusual attitude recovery training. Stan "Cecil Chapman" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message Many old requirements have been eliminated: steep turns, stalls, unusual attitude recoveries, etc. Sounds good, for the most part, though I would question the elimination of the unusual attitude recoveries (though I must say that it never gave me any trouble for either the Private or Instrument training/checkride - so maybe that is what the Feds are thinking,,, most people have no trouble with it when tested so why have it'?' may be their rationale). Will be kind of curious to hear the take of the CFII's (like yourself) in this newsgroup on this new change. -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Student-IASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - |
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