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Old July 15th 10, 11:32 AM
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Question Best place to get gliding lessons?

I'm from Thailand, and they don't have sailplanes here.(they have paragliding but i don't like that)

Just curious, I want to fly sailplanes and want to get lessons, but where should I get them? I want to train where they'rs friendly hospitality and high safety record. Thanks...
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Old July 15th 10, 02:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Atlas vs Alatus vs Apis/bee ultralight sailplanes

On Jul 15, 3:25*am, EvValentin808
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which one should I go for? All are reasonably priced, and self
launching....

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Apis Bee, hands down!

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Old July 15th 10, 10:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Atlas vs Alatus vs Apis/bee ultralight sailplanes

On Jul 15, 6:25*am, EvValentin808
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which one should I go for? All are reasonably priced, and self
launching....

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A friend of mine has an Atlas TS-10 which , without going into
details, is a nightmare. I would recommend not considering purchase of
one of these. We are doing significant work to correct major problems
on his glider.
I don't like to badmouth stuff, but this is pretty bad.
UH
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Old July 16th 10, 05:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mark Jardini
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Default Atlas vs Alatus vs Apis/bee ultralight sailplanes

I have an Apis M and I am very pleased with it.

It is a very capable and forgiving ship.

Mark
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Old July 16th 10, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Jardini View Post
I have an Apis M and I am very pleased with it.

It is a very capable and forgiving ship.

Mark
Isn't it expensive, compairing to the other two? Alatus is 18000(24000 for self-launch), Atlas is around there, and the Apis 41000-85000?

Price in EUROS
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Old July 16th 10, 06:27 PM
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On Jul 15, 6:25*am, EvValentin808
wrote:
which one should I go for? All are reasonably priced, and self
launching....

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EvValentin808


A friend of mine has an Atlas TS-10 which , without going into
details, is a nightmare. I would recommend not considering purchase of
one of these. We are doing significant work to correct major problems
on his glider.
I don't like to badmouth stuff, but this is pretty bad.
UH
Can you get details how bad it is? I was actually saving up for an Atlas.
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Old July 16th 10, 08:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Best place to get gliding lessons?

On Jul 16, 10:23*am, EvValentin808
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Mark Jardini;734756 Wrote: I have an Apis M and I am very pleased with it.

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Old July 16th 10, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Best place to get gliding lessons?

EvValentin808

Your second question (in the form of a changed subject) makes me
wonder if your original subjectquestion will be meaningfully
answered...

Where do you live? (country, region...)
Do you have any pilot ratings?

Answering this will allow people to make reasonable suggestions to you
for getting gliding lessons if you are actually looking into training
options. From your question though, it would seem that worrying about
which motorglider to buy might be a little premature at this stage...
not that I discourage dreaming ahead

-Paul

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Old July 16th 10, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Best place to get gliding lessons?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:23:50 +0000, EvValentin808 wrote:

Mark Jardini;734756 Wrote:
I have an Apis M and I am very pleased with it.

It is a very capable and forgiving ship.

MarkIsn't it expensive, compairing to the other two? Alatus is
18000(24000

for self-launch), Atlas is around there, and the Apis 41000-85000?

If price is important, consider buying a used glider.

But my advice to anybody would be: if you're not yet solo and
(preferably) up to Silver C standard, don't even think about buying a
glider. Fly club gliders, rent, etc. and try as many types as possible to
get the feel of them before you buy.

Performance isn't all important, but IMO handling and your comfort a
- do you like the glider's handling? Do *you* find it easy to fly?
- it must be comfortable, because you'll spend a lot of time in it.
OK, it may be comfortable if you just sit in it, but is it still
comfortable after 3 - 4 hours?
- Are there places you can easily reach to put your water, food, maps?
- What about the peeing arrangements?

So is ease of rigging and derigging. You don't want something that your
club mates will hate helping you to rig.


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Old July 17th 10, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jack Hamilton
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Default Best place to get gliding lessons?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:24:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
wrote:


- What about the peeing arrangements?


As a student pilot with a small bladder, I'm interested in the answer to
that question. I'm learning in an ASK-21, and it seems to me that the
combination of a bucket seat and a 5 point seat belt makes a solution
difficult.

A few months ago, after a new passenger had taken an unexpectedly
turbulent flight, it was mentioned by one of the pilots that an ASK-21
takes about half an hour to clean out. I guess the glider was designed
for that kind of thing - my car, for example, would take much longer
than half an hour to clean out - so the solution doesn't have to be
completely spillproof.

 




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