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Old March 12th 06, 03:59 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Wake Up!" wrote in message
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"khobar" wrote in news:kZBQf.392$PE.376@fed1read05:

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Video of THERMITE REACTION at WTC on 9/11
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite.htm


I've seen and used thermite and thats not it, by the way you are
aware that thermite isnt used to demolish buildings arent you ?


Yes he is, but that's the beauty of his conspiracy - since thermite
isn't used for demolition, no one would suspect it being used. Har har
har de har har.

Paul Nixon





As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to a
reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel? Yes.
Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC?
Yes. Can thermite cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes. Were
those three items present at the WTC? Yes. I love the way you deniers
aren't able to take everything into context, and instead give silly
reasons for each and every piece of information, so you can hold on to
your absurd government conspiracy theory. LOL!!


Can a nuclear reaction partially evaporate steel? Yes. Could a nuclear
reaction cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC? Yes. Can a
nuclear reaction cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes. Were these
three items present at the WTC? Yes.

Oops...

Paul Nixon


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Old March 12th 06, 07:19 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:59:45 -0700, "khobar" wrote:

Can a nuclear reaction partially evaporate steel? Yes. Could a nuclear
reaction cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC? Yes. Can a
nuclear reaction cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes. Were these
three items present at the WTC? Yes.

Oops...

Paul Nixon


The amusing thing about that is that "TRUTH" presented a "paper" from a
"Finnish military expert" who claimed that the WTC was a controlled demolition.
"TRUTH" jumped on it like a drowning man clutches a life preserver. What
"TRUTH" didn't do was see exactly what this "miltiary expert" claimed as the
explosive in other pages on his site; tiny thermonuclear bombs, possibly ignited
by anti-matter.


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Old March 12th 06, 08:25 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"khobar" wrote in news:30NQf.421$PE.346@fed1read05:

"Wake Up!" wrote in message
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"khobar" wrote in
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"Keith W" wrote in message
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"Wake UP!" wrote in message
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Video of THERMITE REACTION at WTC on 9/11
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite.htm


I've seen and used thermite and thats not it, by the way you are
aware that thermite isnt used to demolish buildings arent you ?

Yes he is, but that's the beauty of his conspiracy - since thermite
isn't used for demolition, no one would suspect it being used. Har
har har de har har.

Paul Nixon





As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to
a reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel?
Yes. Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at
the WTC? Yes. Can thermite cause metal dripping like in the videos?
Yes. Were those three items present at the WTC? Yes. I love the way
you deniers aren't able to take everything into context, and instead
give silly reasons for each and every piece of information, so you
can hold on to your absurd government conspiracy theory. LOL!!


Can a nuclear reaction partially evaporate steel? Yes. Could a nuclear
reaction cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC? Yes.
Can a nuclear reaction cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes.
Were these three items present at the WTC? Yes.

Oops...

Paul Nixon





Okay. Where's the evidence supporting that? Let's not forget that
hundreds of people (many professors) read his paper. His supporters are
growing, not shrinking. And based of his evidence at his Sept 22 seminar,
he convinced 60 faculty members that there should be a new investigation.
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Old March 12th 06, 07:15 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:17:53 GMT, "Wake Up!" wrote:

As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to a
reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel? Yes.


Can other things partially evaporate steel? Yes.

One of those things is the steel catching on fire, with enough airflow and a
heat upwards of 1500 degrees, steel burns; in the absence of pure oxygen this
process will be uneven, resulting in partial burning (or evaporation). Flame
cutting is a machining process where steel is heated to the kindling temperature
with a torch, the torch is stopped and then the cut is blasted with oxygen,
nothing else. A continuous line can be cut to any length as the burn is
self-sustaining due to the massive heat released as steel burns, saving costs as
no fuel gas is expended during the cutting. In some cutting systems, propane is
used as a pre-heat gas, the same propane you use in a backyard barbecue grill.

But you've been told this before and you've ignored it before. Just not in
this particular newsgroup.

Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC?
Yes.


Could other things cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC?
Yes, jet fuel for one thing, a burning office building for another.

Can thermite cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes.


Can other things cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes.
Given 80 tons of aluminum and a massive building fire, I can cause all kinds of
dripping metal.

Were those three items present at the WTC? Yes.


Correleation does not prove causation no more than the following is "proved".

Do ice cream sales go up in summer? Yes.
Do more people drown in summer? Yes.

Ice cream causes drownings.

But in your tiny little world, contrary evidence doesn't exist since you
started with a "fact" and only accept things which support that "fact" to
intrude on your own private reality.
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Old March 12th 06, 12:10 PM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Wake Up!" wrote in message
...
"khobar" wrote in news:kZBQf.392$PE.376@fed1read05:

"Keith W" wrote in message
...

"Wake UP!" wrote in message
...
Video of THERMITE REACTION at WTC on 9/11
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite.htm


I've seen and used thermite and thats not it, by the way you are
aware that thermite isnt used to demolish buildings arent you ?


Yes he is, but that's the beauty of his conspiracy - since thermite
isn't used for demolition, no one would suspect it being used. Har har
har de har har.

Paul Nixon





As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to a
reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel? Yes.


No, at best it can melt it, most often its used for welding


Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC?
Yes.


As can burning office furniture, this was present in huge quantities.

Can thermite cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes.


No, thermite produces molten iron, the metal in the video was aluminium


Were
those three items present at the WTC? Yes. I love the way you deniers
aren't able to take everything into context, and instead give silly
reasons for each and every piece of information, so you can hold on to
your absurd government conspiracy theory. LOL!!


I am not the person pushing the absurd government conspiracy theory.

Keith


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Old March 13th 06, 01:54 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Keith W" wrote in news:dv134f$lf1$1
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"Wake Up!" wrote in message
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"khobar" wrote in news:kZBQf.392$PE.376

@fed1read05:

"Keith W" wrote in message
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"Wake UP!" wrote in message
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Video of THERMITE REACTION at WTC on 9/11
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite.htm


I've seen and used thermite and thats not it, by the way you are
aware that thermite isnt used to demolish buildings arent you ?

Yes he is, but that's the beauty of his conspiracy - since thermite
isn't used for demolition, no one would suspect it being used. Har

har
har de har har.

Paul Nixon





As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to

a
reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel? Yes.


No, at best it can melt it, most often its used for welding.




From Jones' paper:
The observed “partly evaporated” steel members is particularly upsetting
to the official theory, since fires involving paper, office materials,
even diesel fuel, cannot generate temperatures anywhere near the ~5,180oF
(~2860oC) needed to evaporate steel. (Recall that WTC 7 was not hit by a
jet, so there was no jet fuel involved in the fires in this building.)
However, thermite-variants, RDX and other commonly-used incendiaries or
explosives (i.e., cutter-charges) can readily slice through steel, thus
cutting the support columns in a controlled demolition, and reach the
required temperatures. This mystery needs to be explored – but is not
mentioned in the “official” 9-11 Commission or NIST reports.




Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the

WTC?
Yes.


As can burning office furniture, this was presen in huge quantities.
t
Can thermite cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes.


No, thermite produces molten iron, the metal in the video was aluminium



From Jones' paper:
The yellow color implies a molten-metal temperature of approximately 1000
oC, evidently above that which the dark-smoke hydrocarbon fires in the
Towers could produce. If aluminum (e.g., from the plane) had melted, it
would melt and flow away from the heat source at its melting point of
about 650 oC and thus would not reach the yellow color observed for this
molten metal. Thus, molten aluminum is in fact ruled out with high
probability. But molten iron with the characteristics seen in this video
is consistent with a thermite-reaction attacking the steel columns in the
Tower, thus weakening the building just prior to its collapse, since
thermite produces molten iron at yellow-to-white hot temperatures. (As
some of the molten metal hits the side of the building in the video clip
above, note that the white-hot interior is exposed.) The reader may wish
to compare the dripping molten metal observed on the corner of the South
Tower just before its collapse with the dripping molten metal from known
thermite reactions: http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite2.htm .





Were
those tree items present at the WTC? Yes. I love the way you deniers
aren't able totake everything into context, and instead give silly
reasons for each and every piece of information, so you can hold on to
your absurd government conspiracy theory. LOL!!


I am not the person pushing the absurd government conspiracy theory.

Keith




I encourage you to look into this deeper. Here's some interesting
information. (Scroll down for 115 ommissions in the government reports):
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/571-page-lie.htm
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Old April 7th 06, 01:06 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Wake Up!" wrote in message
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"khobar" wrote in news:kZBQf.392$PE.376@fed1read05:

"Keith W" wrote in message
...

"Wake UP!" wrote in message
...
Video of THERMITE REACTION at WTC on 9/11
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite.htm


I've seen and used thermite and thats not it, by the way you are
aware that thermite isnt used to demolish buildings arent you ?


Yes he is, but that's the beauty of his conspiracy - since thermite
isn't used for demolition, no one would suspect it being used. Har har
har de har har.

Paul Nixon





As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to a
reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel? Yes.
Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC?


So could a big airplane loaded with fuel hitting it at 250 knots.

What part of "airplane crashes into building" do you NOT understand, retard?




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Old April 7th 06, 04:05 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Wake Up! wrote:
"khobar" wrote in news:kZBQf.392$PE.376@fed1read05:

"Keith W" wrote in message
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"Wake UP!" wrote in message
...
Video of THERMITE REACTION at WTC on 9/11
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite.htm


I've seen and used thermite and thats not it, by the way you are
aware that thermite isnt used to demolish buildings arent you ?


Yes he is, but that's the beauty of his conspiracy - since thermite
isn't used for demolition, no one would suspect it being used. Har har
har de har har.

Paul Nixon





As if that means anything, or has any bearing whatsoever. (I guess to a
reality denier it might.) Can thermite partially evaporate steel? Yes.
Could thermite cause the temperatures that existed in metal at the WTC?
Yes. Can thermite cause metal dripping like in the videos? Yes. Were
those three items present at the WTC? Yes. I love the way you deniers
aren't able to take everything into context, and instead give silly
reasons for each and every piece of information, so you can hold on to
your absurd government conspiracy theory. LOL!!


Care to take a shot at explaining the problem with your "theory" that I
exposed in the hread "it bugs me"? Seems all you kooks just ignore
that glaring problem.

Harry K

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Old March 12th 06, 02:00 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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excerpt from Dr Jones paper:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html


Dramatic footage reveals yellow-to-white hot molten metal dripping from the
South WTC Tower shortly before its collapse:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54740145858863
&q=cameraplanet+9%2F11. The yellow color implies a molten-metal
temperature of approximately 1000 oC, evidently above that which the dark-
smoke hydrocarbon fires in the Towers could produce. If aluminum (e.g.,
from the plane) had melted, it would melt and flow away from the heat
source at its melting point of about 650 oC and thus would not reach the
yellow color observed for this molten metal. Thus, molten aluminum is in
fact ruled out with high probability. But molten iron with the
characteristics seen in this video is consistent with a thermite-reaction
attacking the steel columns in the Tower, thus weakening the building just
prior to its collapse, since thermite produces molten iron at yellow-to-
white hot temperatures. (As some of the molten metal hits the side of the
building in the video clip above, note that the white-hot interior is
exposed.) The reader may wish to compare the dripping molten metal
observed on the corner of the South Tower just before its collapse with the
dripping molten metal from known thermite reactions:
http://www.checktheevidence.com/911/Thermite2.htm
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Old March 12th 06, 02:07 AM posted to rec.travel.air,alt.disasters.aviation,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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"Wake UP!" wrote:

The yellow color implies a molten-metal
temperature of approximately 1000 oC, evidently above that which the dark-
smoke hydrocarbon fires in the Towers could produce. If aluminum (e.g.,
from the plane) had melted, it would melt and flow away from the heat
source at its melting point of about 650 oC and thus would not reach the
yellow color observed for this molten metal. Thus, molten aluminum is in
fact ruled out with high probability.


Bullcrap. Molten aluminum at about 1,100 to 1,200 F glows yellow
nicely, and if it was dribbling downward from where it was melting, you
would see much the same effect as in those photos.
 




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