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Interesting thread : Sebastian Kawa caught cheating
At 15:19 11 June 2019, Dan Marotta wrote:
How does one get caught using an unauthorized radio frequency?Â* Are they scanning "all" 8.33khz frequencies?Â* How would they do that? On 6/11/2019 8:25 AM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote: On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:15:06 AM UTC-7, Paul T wrote: At 13:38 11 June 2019, ProfJ wrote: On Tuesday, 11 June 2019 00:15:05 UTC-6, Paul T wrote: https://uras.gliderpilot.net/?op=s2&id=59967&vt= The title of this thread really distinguishes it from all the other threads in this newsgroup. sorry -forgot some people not able to access this UK newsgroup. Basically Steve Jones (2x world champ) posted under the title: Sebastian Kawa caught cheating As Kawa and other Polish pilots were caught cheating at a recent Grand Prix in Spain, should they get a lifetime ban? No they should not get a lifetime ban! But I could see a DNF for unauthorized radio use as it is blatant cheating, disrespectful to the other competitors, the organization, his sponsors and his reputation. Kawa is the best racing pilot the world has seen, not sure why he would put winning above his exhausted reputation. He has nothing to prove. -- Dan, 5J Feet of clay https://www.google.com/search? rlz=1C2CHZL_enCA739CA739&newwindow=1&source=hp&ei= neH_ XPaFM- iFggeptruQCw&q=feet+of+clay+means&oq=feet+of+clay& gs_l=psy - ab.1.9.0l10.3787.10394..21967...1.0..0.160.1561.1j 12......0....1..g ws-wiz.....6..35i39j0i131j0i10.ocmpag-XIz0 |
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Interesting thread : Sebastian Kawa caught cheating
Ehhhh....for all most of us know....drunken crew member blurted something out after a day of flying...
My feeling, part of issue in USA contests.....we don't allow team flying, but almost ANY other "world type" contest allows this.....as well as other Nationals.... Thus, our peeps don't legally get to practice UNTIL they show up in the world scene. Should we change the US rules? Not sure. Should we change the worlds rules? Not sure. Just commenting on what I know of basic rules from US vs. most other countries/levels... |
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Interesting thread : Sebastian Kawa caught cheating
No they should not get a lifetime ban! But I could see a DNF for unauthorized radio use as it is blatant cheating, disrespectful to the other competitors, the organization, his sponsors and his reputation. Kawa is the best racing pilot the world has seen, not sure why he would put winning above his exhausted reputation. He has nothing to prove. Disappointing, but not surprising. The small penalty probably reflects an unspoken acknowledgment that the practice of team communication is widespread in GP. There are enough different ways to communicate electronically these days that it ought to be easy to do it and avoid detection. This suggests that the Polish team really did not care if they got caught. |
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Interesting thread : Sebastian Kawa caught cheating
On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 12:55:17 PM UTC-6, WB wrote:
No they should not get a lifetime ban! But I could see a DNF for unauthorized radio use as it is blatant cheating, disrespectful to the other competitors, the organization, his sponsors and his reputation. Kawa is the best racing pilot the world has seen, not sure why he would put winning above his exhausted reputation. He has nothing to prove. Disappointing, but not surprising. The small penalty probably reflects an unspoken acknowledgment that the practice of team communication is widespread in GP. There are enough different ways to communicate electronically these days that it ought to be easy to do it and avoid detection. This suggests that the Polish team really did not care if they got caught. I'm not sure I'd call this a "small penalty". This 300 seconds (5 minute) penalty, took him from 2nd place to 8th place. He would have beat Tilo by 1 second. It wouldn't have (and didn't) affect the overall outcome any, but would have made a significant difference to his standings on that final race. |
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I agree with you, John!
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Interesting thread
On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 11:15:05 PM UTC-7, Paul T wrote:
https://uras.gliderpilot.net/?op=s2&id=59967&vt= The big thing I learned from the URAS thread is that there are professional glider pilots. Somewhere. Probably in a country with de-comodified healthcare. --Bob K. |
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Interesting thread
I think we should get closer to FAI rules for FAI classes if we want to field winning teams. But there's no penalty for turning the radio off.
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