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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... His quoted words in question were not delivered to Congress; he made that statement instead on national television: How do you know that? Because I read the entire transcript of his testimony and did not find the bit about him acknowledging that he had himself supposedly committed "war crimes", which was the subject in question? According to The Boston Globe he said it before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Then the Globe is wrong. He DID say it, but he said it during an interview on "Meet the Press", not during his Senate testimony. During his testimony he was more wishy-washy, though he still managed to indict virtually the entire leadership chain from company level on up--but his allegations were all based upon his having bought into the WSI crap, hook, line, and sinker. If you really want to question his testimony itself, then ask for the details of that alleged case where he claimed to have been "pinned down in a ditch while retrieving bodies" bit...sounds like another tall tale from Kerry, IMO. Brooks |
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"Chris Manteuffel" wrote in message om... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... snip of stuff I had already posted about, correcting Mr. McNicoll's wrong attribution Are you thinking it only is valid if he did so during his congressional testimony? If that is the case, then by the same logic we cannot accept anything he says when not under oath? No. I was engaging in primary research. And when I could not find it in the cited work, I asked him for clarification. Oddly enough, I just did a quick Google and got the answer in about three minutes--and BTW, I have yet to see the post where you responded (maybe my newsserver did not catch it, or it got deleted by me along with a slew of other posts by accident). As you will note, I posted a correct cite, with complete trancript to his present day thoughts and authortative cite, a full half a day before you posted this message ). Great, then you agree Kerry has indeed made these claims. Brooks Chris Manteuffel |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: It's a copy and paste from The Boston Globe site. 'Cuz the Boston Globe is a MUCH more reliable source than the actual transcripts of the actual meeting where he supposedly actually said this. |
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
Oddly enough, I just did a quick Google and got the answer in about three minutes Indeed, once I realized that the cite was incorrect, getting a correct cite was trivial. However, I tend to trust cites provided by other people, and so I specifically looked for the senate testimony, and after I read it wanted further clarification. --and BTW, I have yet to see the post where you responded (maybe my newsserver did not catch it, or it got deleted by me along with a slew of other posts by accident). I have provided the message-id of that post that I made, which should allow you to find it on your server. If that doesn't work for you, here it the google reference: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...ing.google.com Great, then you agree Kerry has indeed made these claims. Yes. However, I am not the person who was in this argument before, and he did not dispute the accuracy of this quote either. All I wanted was a correct cite for a quote, and when I checked the reference material the cite turned out to be wrong, so I wanted to get it correct. I am not trying to get involved in a xposted flamewar at all. The only issue I brought up was where the cite was. And now that I know that the Boston Globe got the cite wrong, everything should be clear. Chris Manteuffel |
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From: David Fritzinger
Date: 8/23/2004 11:51 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: In article . net, "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: "david raoul derbes" wrote in message ... In article t, Steven P. McNicoll wrote: "Ray Fischer" wrote in message ... These ads that do little but lie are going to destroy Bush by portraying Bush as an immoral slanderer. Why would that be? Bush has nothing to do with those ads. Bush _himself_, perhaps. Bush's _organization_ had plenty to do with them: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/po...n/20swift.html There's nothing on that page that demonstrates Bush's _organization_ had anything to do with those ads. No, just lots of Bush friends were involved. -- Dave Fritzinger And lots of kerry's friends are involved with anti Bush ads. Do you see kerry condemning them? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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"Michael Wise" wrote in message ... In article , (BUFDRVR) wrote: Bush has come out and asked who ever is responsible for those ads to pull them. He asked Kerry to do the same. What are the chances Kerry asks Moveon.org to stop their slander campaign? How about Michael Moore? Can anybody objectively demonstrate those ads are slander as has been the case with the SWBVT ads? Can anybody objectively demonstrate that the SBVT ads are slander? |
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(B2431) wrote: These ads that do little but lie are going to destroy Bush by portraying Bush as an immoral slanderer. Why would that be? Bush has nothing to do with those ads. Bush _himself_, perhaps. Bush's _organization_ had plenty to do with them: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/po...n/20swift.html There's nothing on that page that demonstrates Bush's _organization_ had anything to do with those ads. No, just lots of Bush friends were involved. And lots of kerry's friends are involved with anti Bush ads. Do you see kerry condemning them? What's being condemned here is not soft money ads and not negative ads...and Bush is not being asked to condemn ads just because they are negative or financed by partisan supporters. What Bush is being asked to condemn is an ad which is demonstrably false and obviously deliberately so. The fact that it came from a soft money group is not relavant. Got it? --Mike |
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