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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1

In article ,
gregfarr wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Both are Lockheed designs
F22 is twin-engine.
F35 is single-engine/S/VTOL Joint Strike Fighter
Similar design for some parts commonality with the F22 for cost savings.
F22 is an F25 replacement.
F35 is an F16/A8 replacement

In article ,
gregfarr wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Both are Lockheed designs
F22 is twin-engine.
F35 is single-engine/S/VTOL Joint Strike Fighter
Similar design for some parts commonality with the F22 for cost savings.
F22 is an F25 replacement.
F35 is an F16/A8 replacement

I believe it's the first production (non-prototype, non-development
airframe) for the F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter. A completely
different plane from the F-22. It's meant to be smaller, a bit
cheaper, built in greater quantity, and more aimed at both
air-to-ground and air-to-air than the F-22's air-superiority focus.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:41:50 -0800, gregfarr
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1

I believe it's the first production (non-prototype, non-development
airframe) for the F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter. A completely
different plane from the F-22. It's meant to be smaller, a bit
cheaper, built in greater quantity, and more aimed at both
air-to-ground and air-to-air than the F-22's air-superiority focus.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:41:50 -0800, gregfarr
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:49:11 -0500, john smith wrote:

In article ,
gregfarr wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Both are Lockheed designs
F22 is twin-engine.
F35 is single-engine/S/VTOL Joint Strike Fighter
Similar design for some parts commonality with the F22 for cost savings.
F22 is an F25 replacement.
F35 is an F16/A8 replacement


Oh, of course, diff missions, but still some darkness, as WTH is an
f-25.

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:49:11 -0500, john smith wrote:

In article ,
gregfarr wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Both are Lockheed designs
F22 is twin-engine.
F35 is single-engine/S/VTOL Joint Strike Fighter
Similar design for some parts commonality with the F22 for cost savings.
F22 is an F25 replacement.
F35 is an F16/A8 replacement


Oh, of course, diff missions, but still some darkness, as WTH is an
f-25.

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1

"Papa Fox" wrote in message
...
I believe it's the first production (non-prototype, non-development
airframe) for the F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter. A completely
different plane from the F-22. It's meant to be smaller, a bit
cheaper, built in greater quantity, and more aimed at both
air-to-ground and air-to-air than the F-22's air-superiority focus.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:41:50 -0800, gregfarr
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1



F-22 is to replace F-15 and F-16 and F-18
F-35 is to replace AV-8 and A-6 and f-18G (growler)
to bring in two types was a dream of macnamara in the 1960's
cost savings is enormous part supply leaner and cheaper...
this is the doctrine of the pentagon and all us military's

"Papa Fox" wrote in message
...
I believe it's the first production (non-prototype, non-development
airframe) for the F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter. A completely
different plane from the F-22. It's meant to be smaller, a bit
cheaper, built in greater quantity, and more aimed at both
air-to-ground and air-to-air than the F-22's air-superiority focus.

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:41:50 -0800, gregfarr
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:39:57 -0500, wrote:

Please excuse another Dumbo question, but what is this? The prototype
that was made , leading up the F-22 production fighter?

Greg
http://gregsplace.50megs.com
http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1



F-22 is to replace F-15 and F-16 and F-18
F-35 is to replace AV-8 and A-6 and f-18G (growler)
to bring in two types was a dream of macnamara in the 1960's
cost savings is enormous part supply leaner and cheaper...
this is the doctrine of the pentagon and all us military's

F-22 is to replace F-15 and F-16 and F-18
F-35 is to replace AV-8 and A-6 and f-18G (growler)
to bring in two types was a dream of macnamara in the 1960's
cost savings is enormous part supply leaner and cheaper...
this is the doctrine of the pentagon and all us military's


I'll agree on all but the F-18G.

First off, it's just now coming out of testing, and they haven't even
started replacing the EA-6Bs...

Secondly, I don't think the -35 has enough external pylons to carry
the four jamming pods, let alone the tanks to get its range up with
all the extra drag.

Super Hornets will be around for a while.