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September 16th 03, 05:38 AM
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"Walt BJ" wrote
The other 'secret' about airline flying is that the maximum allowable takeoff gross weight for each flight is always calculated on the ability of the airplane to make the FAA-mandated climb profile after losing an engine at V1 speed and safely clear all the obstacles on the way. In Denver in the summer the 727s usually had some seats blocked off due to this weight restriction. None of those hairy KC135 max gross 'wartime' weight takeoffs! I used to love watching (and hearing) the A models take-off out of Riyadh Military in the 80's (ELF-1) with 120 degrees in the shade. You could hear them spool-up with water at least five miles away at the hotel, and then they would still be at 500 ft waiting for airspeed passing over the hotel (Al Yamamah). Jeeze, that's over 20 years ago already... 
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September 16th 03, 05:39 AM
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"Wingedhoof" wrote
another SINGLE engined regular crashing Viper bites the dust.. told ya so... twins much safer... Gee, I must have missed the outcome of the Safety Investigation Board when they said there was an engine problem. No electricity, plane stops flying, pilot gives it back to the taxpayers.
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September 16th 03, 05:56 AM
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"Gene Storey" wrote in message .. . "Walt BJ" wrote The other 'secret' about airline flying is that the maximum allowable takeoff gross weight for each flight is always calculated on the ability of the airplane to make the FAA-mandated climb profile after losing an engine at V1 speed and safely clear all the obstacles on the way. In Denver in the summer the 727s usually had some seats blocked off due to this weight restriction. None of those hairy KC135 max gross 'wartime' weight takeoffs! I used to love watching (and hearing) the A models take-off out of Riyadh Military in the 80's (ELF-1) with 120 degrees in the shade. You could hear them spool-up with water at least five miles away at the hotel, and then they would still be at 500 ft waiting for airspeed passing over the hotel (Al Yamamah). Jeeze, that's over 20 years ago already... And the Blackhawk won't even light up at that temperature. (electrics)
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