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Old December 9th 19, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Youngblood
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The FAA has made it possible for glider plots with very limited time to acquire a CFIG rating with only 15 hours of total glider time. This is truly an accident waiting to happen, what could a glider pilot actually know with such limited time? What do you think?
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Old December 9th 19, 12:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ridiculous, blind leading the blind
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Old December 9th 19, 01:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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It's 15 hrs PIC time.
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Old December 9th 19, 01:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Maybe a CFI-ASEL adds CFI-Glider so that he can teach students to fly motorgliders. A number of PPL-ASEL move to motorgliders and fly them like airplanes.
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Old December 11th 19, 02:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 7:23:10 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:
It's 15 hrs PIC time.


still 15 hour PIC is just about nothing. I am 16 and just got my Private Pilot glider 3 days ago and I have about that and I would not trust myself to teach others how to do what we do. It is dangerous and needs a very competent pilot to teach students how to fly.
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Old December 11th 19, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Congrats!
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Old December 11th 19, 03:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On 12/10/2019 7:25 PM, Colten Coughlin wrote:
On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 7:23:10 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:
It's 15 hrs PIC time.


still 15 hour PIC is just about nothing. I am 16 and just got my Private
Pilot glider 3 days ago and I have about that and I would not trust myself
to teach others how to do what we do. It is dangerous and needs a very
competent pilot to teach students how to fly.


Congratulations on your PPG!!!

Instructing's like much else in life: A man's got to know his limitations.
(That's a well-known line from a movie made before you were born; your Dad
likely knows which one!)

Bob W.


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Old December 11th 19, 04:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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You have 15 total but only about 3 hrs PIC. You would first have to do about 150 more flights, turn 18, and pass the commercial test. Then train and pass the cfig test. By then you'd have a lot more experience and be minimally qualified to teach like I was in 2005. I'm looking forward to that day for you Colten
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Old December 11th 19, 04:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I'm gonna go way out on a limb and guess that those 15 hours are not
/_total_/ time, but glider time.Â* You won't find any CFI of any sort
with 15 hours of total time.Â* In my case I already had thousands of
hours and decades of experience before I got my Commercial Glider add
on.Â* This is just like politics; grab one little detail and blow it all
out of proportion.

On 12/10/2019 9:27 PM, Tony wrote:
You have 15 total but only about 3 hrs PIC. You would first have to do about 150 more flights, turn 18, and pass the commercial test. Then train and pass the cfig test. By then you'd have a lot more experience and be minimally qualified to teach like I was in 2005. I'm looking forward to that day for you Colten


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Old December 11th 19, 08:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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We should teach students to soar concurrently with gliding and to the best we can. But my take on the licensing bit(in the US) is that it is a glider license and soaring is the sport you use a glider license for. Get the gliding license, sometimes without any demonstration of soaring skill, then go off chase soaring at what ever level you wish to tackle.
Different from the European standards that ties soaring skill and experience in with the rating. Both have pluses and minuses.
For those horrified at the prospect of Airplane CFIs with 15 hour glider instructor add ons, whatever you do don't go look at the minimums for the Sport Pilot Glider Instructor rating. Hint 61.411 lolz
We should have a contest to see which club can make a Sport Pilot Glider Instructor with the least amount of time
 




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