Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS

"Deaf2u" wrote in message
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I just want to know why he doesn't fly it, or at least watch it fly. I have
nothing against the guy, I don't know him and I'm not going to judge by who
he calls a friend. It just seems that he's put in a lot of effort here, I'd
want to see it fly.




I think he is probably scared of it. I would be.

And I have to disagree with you. Who one chooses as friends is an excellent
judge of one's character. It bay even be the best way.

"Deaf2u" wrote in message
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Well once again, disregarding the apparently intense battle\hatred DABEAR
has for Juan I still find it curious. He's owned this plane, taken pride
and made some fairly loud noises about owning it. He has a website about
it and has been all about this plane for a while and yet has no desire to
see it fulfill it's mission. I have no interest in it, I'm more interested
in slow planes with floats but I am curious.


I agree. After years of association with EAA folks, I find this a very
uncommon
attitude in a home builder. Never seen anyone like him. Richard's warnings
are probably the root cause. And, as Richard so succinctly said:

"This makes Juan's airplane lighter than
all other BD-5Js and won him recognition as having the lightest non-flying,
non-running BD-5J in the world to be recognized by a beer company.

I guess when you look at the record in a category/class kind of way, maybe
he
does hold it. A flying airplane, weighed with a pilot and fuel, would
probably be in
a completely differant class.


Al G

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:36:10 -0800, "Al G"
wrote:


"Anthony W" wrote in message
news:7FEih.6931$Pq4.4740@trndny08...
Al G wrote:
"jc" wrote in message
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Al G wrote:

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358 lbs. Pretty Good. Is that "ready to fly"? I.E. a Basic Operating
Weight?

Can anybody compete for a Guiness World Record "Lightest Jet"?
What are the rules? Obviously it need not be an actual flying
airplane...

CriCri beats that easily IIRC the twin piston version is ~180lb empty
and
~375lb MTOW. The twin jet version would be similar with the same
airframe.

http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html

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regards

jc

LEGAL - I don't believe what I wrote and neither should you. Sobriety
and/or
sanity of the author is not guaranteed

EMAIL - and are not valid email
addresses. news2x at perentie is valid for a while.

A couple of hundred pounds lighter, and actually flown, many times,
successfully.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/..._aircraft.aspx

Too bad there is no way to notify Guiness, online. The only contact I
could find was snail mail.

Al G

I'll donate 4 bits for a stamp...

Tony

Oh Jeez, and I'm already laying low from Zoom's threats/attention. Now
I
should attack Jaun's "Record". I'm a little surprised even Guinness would
accept,
for a record, an airplane that had never flown. Besides, Zoom has flown
over
twice as many aircraft types as the current Guinness holder. Obviously
they
are not up to date.


We talked about this here back when the Yawner got his "record." It's
not for the *lightest* jet, it's for the *smallest* jet. IIRC, the
CriCri was lighter, but was a little bigger in wingspan or length.


oh. damn, I missed that.
I sit corrected.

Al G

Isn't Juan's buddy Zoom a test pilot?
Maybe he could do the flight test program for Juan?

Montblack wrote:
("Richard Riley" wrote)
We talked about this here back when the Yawner got his "record." It's not
for the *lightest* jet, it's for the *smallest* jet. IIRC, the CriCri was
lighter, but was a little bigger in wingspan or length.

Of course, and airplane doesn't have to actually fly to be an airplane.
I'm told there's a broom and a carpet on the FAA registry.


The Cri-Cri is about 10 inches longer.
The Cri-Cri weighs half as much.
The Cri-Cri's wingspan is shorter by about a foot. (16' vs. 17')
The Cri-Cri (jet) flies, has flown, will fly, did fly...

http://home.regent.edu/ruthven/bd-5.html
BD-5

http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html
Cri-Cri (jet)

http://www.flight.cz/cricri/english/
GREAT Cri-Cri site. Check out the (new) NZ video.


Montblack
Cri-Cri fan


What is it about the design that makes it so unsafe? It looks a bit
short coupled, but that's the only thing that jumps out at me.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Al G" wrote in message
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I guess when you look at the record in a category/class kind of way, maybe
he
does hold it. A flying airplane, weighed with a pilot and fuel, would
probably be in
a completely differant class.


If the plane never leaves the ground it isn't an airplane as far as I'm
concerned. Think how easy it would be to just put together some cardboard
and a light jet engine and call it the lightest jet airplane.

"john smith" wrote in message
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Isn't Juan's buddy Zoom a test pilot?
Maybe he could do the flight test program for Juan?


Even Zooooom isn't that stupid.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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And I have to disagree with you. Who one chooses as friends is an
excellent judge of one's character. It bay even be the best way.

I'm sure it is, and if a persons associates are dubious it leaves one one
cautious about him. But I've always been willing to guage people as I find
them, not nescessarily on what I've heard. Not really the topic I had in
mind though.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
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Isn't Juan's buddy Zoom a test pilot?
Maybe he could do the flight test program for Juan?


Even Zooooom isn't that stupid.


No, but he is crazy. Maybe someone needs to put him on the spot to
prove how big and brave he really is You know "put up or shut up."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I think to qualify for a Guinnes record you have to actually apply. In any
case I'd likely give it to the Cri-Cri on the basis of non-flight, but here
is a yet smaller craft. Perhaps it is too small to qualify as an aircraft,
I'd give him any record he wants, this guy truly is the real thing.

http://www.jet-man.com/actuel_eng.html