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They call it the impossible turn.
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They call it the impossible turn.
Dave Doe writes:
Well you'll be pleased to learn that I do considerable research on the internet. Good. However I'm in no position to be able to research your sources, as I do not know what sources you are using and my sucess rate at mind-reading works out at a percentage equal to pure co-incidence. One doesn't research _sources_, one researches _assertions_, looking for independent corroboration among sources that one trusts. But you already know that ... since you do considerable research on the Internet. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
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They call it the impossible turn.
In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes: Sure - you understood what I was talking about, but clearly Mxsmanic had no clue or he wouldn't have made the sweeping claim he did. The topic of the thread concerns the high risk of attempting to return to an airport after losing all power after takeoff. It's hard to see how this would be applicable to gliders, since they do not take off and they are not powered. They certainly do take off, or how would they get into the air? And they are powered by an engine at the end of a rope. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
On Feb 15, 12:36*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
The topic of the thread concerns the high risk of attempting to return to an airport after losing all power after takeoff. It's hard to see how this would be applicable to gliders, since they do not take off and they are not powered. Winch rope breaks - aerotow rope breaks. I'm amused at the claim that gliders do not 'takeoff' and there's now a number of powered gliders out there.. Mixedups research stops at the GA gate |
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They call it the impossible turn.
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They call it the impossible turn.
george writes:
Winch rope breaks - aerotow rope breaks. Even then, it's not quite the same as being in a powered airplane. A glider is designed to fly without power; a powered aircraft is not. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: They certainly do take off, or how would they get into the air? By being towed there. A take off is a take off. And they are powered by an engine at the end of a rope. See above. So by your logic if the engine at the end of the rope quites, there is no problem because it isn't directly bolted to the glider? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes: Winch rope breaks - aerotow rope breaks. Even then, it's not quite the same as being in a powered airplane. A glider is designed to fly without power; a powered aircraft is not. Yep, powered aircraft stop flying and just flutter willy-nilly to the ground without power. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes: Winch rope breaks - aerotow rope breaks. Even then, it's not quite the same as being in a powered airplane. A glider is designed to fly without power; a powered aircraft is not. The gliders power is provided by another a/c initially, and then it's switched to natural power in the form of gravity. If a "normally" poowered a/c was not designed to fly without power, it would drop like a stone when the engine is cut. It is not the engine that makes the a/c fly. It is the wings. The engine simply pulls the a/c through the air, as does gravity/inertia in the case of a glider. The only difference is that a glider is usually much lighter, and the wings longer. The glide ration, due to these differences is different to a powered a/c. The principles are the same. If a powered a/c loses power on take off, it lacks sufficient forward motion and altitude to maintain flight. When a glider loses power (it's tow plane), on take off, it lacks sufficient forward motion and altitude to maintain flight. Same same. Crash Lander -- |
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