Naviter Oudie 3

The Oudie 3 is available.

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie_3.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7owicxFXc


The Oudie 3 has an improved GPS, inculdes software, a non compensated vario and a 12 hour battery life. Software for hang gliders and paragliders or sailplanes can be loaded in the Oudie 3.

In stock

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

The price is significantly updated as well. Too bad no one else offers this type of put of the box solutions with their software, all it takes is a week long trip to China...
Cheers,
Gk

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote:
The Oudie 3 is available.



http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie_3.htm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7owicxFXc





The Oudie 3 has an improved GPS, inculdes software, a non compensated vario and a 12 hour battery life. Software for hang gliders and paragliders or sailplanes can be loaded in the Oudie 3.



In stock



Richard

www.craggyaero.com

The price is significantly updated as well. Too bad no one else offers this type of out the box solutions with their software (and there are several potentials), all it takes is a week long trip to China...
Cheers,
GK

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote:
The Oudie 3 is available.



http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie_3.htm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7owicxFXc





The Oudie 3 has an improved GPS, inculdes software, a non compensated vario and a 12 hour battery life. Software for hang gliders and paragliders or sailplanes can be loaded in the Oudie 3.



In stock



Richard

www.craggyaero.com

Hi,

I also have Oudie 3 units in stock. I'll have them on my web site later
today.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, wrote:
, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote:

The Oudie 3 is available.
Richard and Paul,
Thanks for posting. A few questions; Is the GPS of a high enough level where it could be approved for certain claims? Second, the screen shots look a little different than SYM version 3.5, is that because that is a hang/para-gliding version or is it running a new version of SYM? Lastly, will it be possible to upgrade some of the new features (Like the 12.5HR battery) to an Oudie 2.
Thanks
PS Richard, Enjoyed talking to you and your Oudie presentation at Nephi.

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:22:49 PM UTC-7, K wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, wrote: , 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote: The Oudie 3 is available. Richard and Paul, Thanks for posting. A few questions; Is the GPS of a high enough level where it could be approved for certain claims? Second, the screen shots look a little different than SYM version 3.5, is that because that is a hang/para-gliding version or is it running a new version of SYM? Lastly, will it be possible to upgrade some of the new features (Like the 12.5HR battery) to an Oudie 2. Thanks PS Richard, Enjoyed talking to you and your Oudie presentation at Nephi.

I believe the GPS and recorder are good enough for OLC. Screen shots are different because the software is for hanggliders and paragliders. It can accomodate the sailplane software I don't belive it will be possible to upgrade a current Oudie the case in the Oudie 3 is about 1" thick to accomodate the battery.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22:49 PM UTC-4, K wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, wrote:

Thanks for posting. A few questions; Is the GPS of a high enough level where it could be approved for certain claims?
Thanks

As far as getting the Oudie 3 approved as a "GPS Position Recorder" (as opposed to an IGC Approved Flight Recorder), that's certainly a possibility. This would allow it to be used for Silver/Gold badge claims. The two biggest things you would need to demonstrate (over and above all the usual IGC format and basic security stuff) a

- Projection: The device should not do any sort of "forward projection" if the signal is lost. This can be verified with a simple test conducted in a car.

- Accuracy/Consistency: The device should operate within the normal GPS position accuracy parameters in both lateral position and (more importantly) altitude. A good way to demonstrate this is to record a number of flights with the Oudie at the same time as an approved IGC FR. If one assumes that the IGC approved FR meets the "specs", then the GPS Position Recorder should be in relatively close agreement without a lot of spurious fixes, drops, etc.

If anyone is interested in running with this for the Oudie 3, please contact me offline.

Erik Mann
SSA B&R Committee Chair

I'll second Kirk's comment on thanking Richard for his Oudie seminar at the
meet In Nephi Utah. It is fantastic when someone with his knowledge and
patience can give a class during a full on event. We all learned alot and
put it to good use the next day.
THANKS RICHARD!
Support CRAGGY AERO
Nick Kennedy
Glider T




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Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Hi,

Unfortunately, It is extremely unlikely that the IGC will approve the Oudie
3 for badges and records. They don't trust PDA/PNA devices because they
think someone could write software to intercept and change the GPS data
before it is recorded. I don't agree with them on this, but that is I
understand their position.

The Oudie 3 can either run the sailplane version of SeeYou Mobile or the
Paraglider / Hang Glider version of SeeYou Mobile. I show a few screen
shots of both on my Oudie web page.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm

I don't think Oudie or Oudie 2 units can be upgraded to Oudie 3 units.
There are many changes to the circuit boards to accommodate the pressure
sensor and different GPS. However, I don't think most glider pilots would
want to upgrade. The Oudie 3 is great for pilots that want to use it in
club or rental gliders, but customers using the Oudie 2 in their own glider
with an external GPS or flight computer connected have no reason to switch.
The vario in the Oudie 3 is a cool idea, but since it is not a total energy
compensated variometer, it is not nearly as useful as the varios you already
have in the glider. It will show lift every time you slow down and sink
every time you speed-up.

I am still added accessories to my Naviter web page. I'm also going to add
an Oudie comparison table. I hope to have everything done later today.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
_______________________________________

"K" wrote in message
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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, wrote:
, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote:

The Oudie 3 is available.
Richard and Paul,
Thanks for posting. A few questions; Is the GPS of a high enough level where
it could be approved for certain claims? Second, the screen shots look a
little different than SYM version 3.5, is that because that is a
hang/para-gliding version or is it running a new version of SYM? Lastly,
will it be possible to upgrade some of the new features (Like the 12.5HR
battery) to an Oudie 2.
Thanks
PS Richard, Enjoyed talking to you and your Oudie presentation at Nephi.

Hi Paul,

While the device will not be approved as an IGC Flight Recorder, it is up to the individual NACs (the SSA for the US) to determine whether to approve them as GPS Position Recorders, which allows the device to be used for badges up to Gold. These devices do not need to live up to the full specifications for an FR, though they do need to provide some level of security that makes it impossible (or at least exceedingly painful) to modify a log file without it being obvious to the OO.

The SSA has already approved the FlyWithCE recorders as GPS Position Recorders. Hopefully the newer version of the Oudie will address the concerns that prevented the earlier versions from being similarly approved.

P3

On Friday, August 16, 2013 7:39:23 AM UTC-4, Paul Remde wrote:
Hi,



Unfortunately, It is extremely unlikely that the IGC will approve the Oudie

3 for badges and records. They don't trust PDA/PNA devices because they

think someone could write software to intercept and change the GPS data

before it is recorded. I don't agree with them on this, but that is I

understand their position.



The Oudie 3 can either run the sailplane version of SeeYou Mobile or the

Paraglider / Hang Glider version of SeeYou Mobile. I show a few screen

shots of both on my Oudie web page.

http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm



I don't think Oudie or Oudie 2 units can be upgraded to Oudie 3 units.

There are many changes to the circuit boards to accommodate the pressure

sensor and different GPS. However, I don't think most glider pilots would

want to upgrade. The Oudie 3 is great for pilots that want to use it in

club or rental gliders, but customers using the Oudie 2 in their own glider

with an external GPS or flight computer connected have no reason to switch.

The vario in the Oudie 3 is a cool idea, but since it is not a total energy

compensated variometer, it is not nearly as useful as the varios you already

have in the glider. It will show lift every time you slow down and sink

every time you speed-up.



I am still added accessories to my Naviter web page. I'm also going to add

an Oudie comparison table. I hope to have everything done later today.



Best Regards,



Paul Remde

Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

_______________________________________



"K" wrote in message

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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, wrote:

, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote:



The Oudie 3 is available.

Richard and Paul,

Thanks for posting. A few questions; Is the GPS of a high enough level where

it could be approved for certain claims? Second, the screen shots look a

little different than SYM version 3.5, is that because that is a

hang/para-gliding version or is it running a new version of SYM? Lastly,

will it be possible to upgrade some of the new features (Like the 12.5HR

battery) to an Oudie 2.

Thanks

PS Richard, Enjoyed talking to you and your Oudie presentation at Nephi.