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Old September 20th 10, 11:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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george wrote:
On Sep 21, 3:44Â*am, wrote:
george wrote:

I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane, yes.

There may be some niche applications, like unmanned surveillance, where they
might be useful but they are terribly fragile.


And a range of 90 minutes....
That's barely enough to start a crosscountry.
If you want a fun machine that goes places cheaply
The Bantam B22 Microlight has a 4 hour range at 60+ knots.


I was referring to the unmanned research things that stay up for days, mostly
because they are little more than gliders covered with solar cells with an
electric motor.



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  #42  
Old September 20th 10, 11:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 20, 1:18*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:44*am, wrote:
george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane...


AIRPLANE:


snip factual definition of airplane

I think everyone but you knows what I mean.

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An airplane is an airplane.

I consider many "real airplanes" to be fragile with their cloth
wings ( which i've flown ) and many electric airplanes such
as a Sonex or the electraflyer to be nice weatherproof planes
far superior to gas powered ultralights.

You're entitled to your opinion. But it's only that.

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  #43  
Old September 20th 10, 11:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 20, 5:23*pm, george wrote:
On Sep 21, 3:44*am, wrote:

george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane, yes.


There may be some niche applications, like unmanned surveillance, where they
might be useful but they are terribly fragile.


And a range of 90 minutes....
That's barely enough to start a crosscountry.
If you want a fun machine that goes places cheaply
The Bantam B22 Microlight has a 4 hour range at 60+ knots.


Where do you put the luggage and dog?

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Old September 20th 10, 11:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 20, 6:00*pm, wrote:
george wrote:
On Sep 21, 3:44*am, wrote:
george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane, yes.


There may be some niche applications, like unmanned surveillance, where they
might be useful but they are terribly fragile.


And a range of 90 minutes....
That's barely enough to start a crosscountry.
If you want a fun machine that goes places cheaply
The Bantam B22 Microlight has a 4 hour range at 60+ knots.


I was referring to the unmanned research things that stay up for days, mostly
because they are little more than gliders covered with solar cells with an
electric motor.

Correct. Those are aeronautical physics experiments.

They are unmanned to set records in duration and elevation.
They also have the "electric advantage" of no oxygen requirement.

An LSA manned electric plane has the "no oxygen advantage" too.

LOL! And anybody can perform the FAA modifications on one.

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Old September 20th 10, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:18Â*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:44Â*am, wrote:
george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane...


AIRPLANE:


snip factual definition of airplane

I think everyone but you knows what I mean.

--
Jim Pennino


An airplane is an airplane.

I consider many "real airplanes" to be fragile with their cloth
wings


Clueless.


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  #46  
Old September 20th 10, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 20, 6:25*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:18*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:44*am, wrote:
george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy..
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane...


AIRPLANE:


*snip factual definition of airplane


I think everyone but you knows what I mean.


--
Jim Pennino


An airplane is an airplane.


I consider many "real airplanes" to be fragile with their cloth
wings


Clueless.

--
Jim Pennino


No sir. That's just an opinion. May I have one?

I feel strange a mile up in
anything I can stick my finger through. My first trainer
was a J - 3 antique.

I also feel weird about buying something made 60 years
ago. Maybe there's something unseen.

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  #47  
Old September 21st 10, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 6:25Â*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 1:18Â*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:44Â*am, wrote:
george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane...


AIRPLANE:


Â*snip factual definition of airplane


I think everyone but you knows what I mean.


--
Jim Pennino


An airplane is an airplane.


I consider many "real airplanes" to be fragile with their cloth
wings


Clueless.

--
Jim Pennino


No sir. That's just an opinion. May I have one?


Sure, you can have a clueless opinion.

I feel strange a mile up in
anything I can stick my finger through. My first trainer
was a J - 3 antique.


It would take very close to the same abuse to stick your finger through
a fabric airplane as it would to do the same to the Apollo spacecraft.

I also feel weird about buying something made 60 years
ago. Maybe there's something unseen.


Not likely if it hasn't shown up in 60 years.

Does the phrase "annual inspection" mean anything to you?


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Old September 21st 10, 12:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 6:00Â*pm, wrote:
george wrote:
On Sep 21, 3:44Â*am, wrote:
george wrote:


I think the 'electric' powered aircraft is little more than a toy.
Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWoLsJz8J5U


Compared to a real airplane, yes.


There may be some niche applications, like unmanned surveillance, where they
might be useful but they are terribly fragile.


And a range of 90 minutes....
That's barely enough to start a crosscountry.
If you want a fun machine that goes places cheaply
The Bantam B22 Microlight has a 4 hour range at 60+ knots.


I was referring to the unmanned research things that stay up for days, mostly
because they are little more than gliders covered with solar cells with an
electric motor.

Correct. Those are aeronautical physics experiments.

They are unmanned to set records in duration and elevation.


No they are unmanned because they would have to be many times bigger to
carry the weight of a person.

snip nonsense


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Old September 21st 10, 12:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 20, 7:15*pm, wrote:

Correct. Those are aeronautical physics experiments.


They are unmanned to set records in duration and elevation.


No they are unmanned because they would have to be many times bigger to
carry the weight of a person.


No they are unmanned because they didn't want to make
them large enough to carry a man.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/n...ios/index.html

Keep trying. Even a blind pig gets an acorn once in a while.

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Old September 21st 10, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 20, 7:13*pm, wrote:

Clueless.


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Jim Pennino


No sir. That's just an opinion. May I have one?


Sure, you can have a clueless opinion.


Cite.

I feel strange a mile up in
anything I can stick my finger through. My first trainer
was a J - 3 antique.


It would take very close to the same abuse to stick your finger through
a fabric airplane as it would to do the same to the Apollo spacecraft.


I also feel strange flying Apollo spacecraft. So?

I also feel weird about buying something made 60 years
ago. *Maybe there's something unseen.


Not likely if it hasn't shown up in 60 years.


Does the phrase, "metal fatigue" mean anything to you?

Does the phrase "annual inspection" mean anything to you?


Does the phrase, "not visible to the naked eye" mean anything
to you?

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