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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On Aug 9, 9:05*pm, Mike Schumann
wrote: On 8/9/2010 9:19 PM, brian whatcott wrote: On 8/9/2010 5:07 PM, flyingmr2 wrote: /snip/ Please, everyone stay safe and no more crashing! If we have another fatality in the west anytime soon, my wife might pull the plug on her support for this hobby./snip/ Please fly safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One way to fly safe - er, is to avoid being in the vicinity of other aircraft. Easy for me to say! That might mean no contests? Brian W Given the current turmoil with ADS-B vs. Powerflarm, etc....the smartest investment might not be any avionics at all, but a ballistic recovery chute. -- Mike Schumann Mike, with respect, it seems that you are quite fixated on ADS-B and the way FLARM was (not) introduced to the US, and that you respond to every post with that filter. I don't see the turmoil; I have a transponder, so if you have powerflarm you will see me. If you have ADS-B, flarm, or powerflarm I will see you, because I am going to have a powerflarm ASAP. So you have flarm or powerflarm you will see me again. If power traffic is a threat I will see it (their transponder). If they have ATC following, or TCAS they will see my transponder. The turmoil, is it that the exact form of what we will be using in 10 years is not clear? That seems a separate subject. And the ballistic chute, like that Cirrus had that went through the tow plane, I recall they burned on the way down, not a fun ride. It's speculation, but if you project that into next year, and that glider on tow had powerflarm it (in theory) would have alerted the glider to the incoming cirrus when it alerted to the transponder and that could have made the difference. Any way you slice it the $1,600 seems like cheap insurance to me. Brian |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On 8/10/2010 12:59 AM, brianDG303 wrote:
On Aug 9, 9:05 pm, Mike wrote: On 8/9/2010 9:19 PM, brian whatcott wrote: On 8/9/2010 5:07 PM, flyingmr2 wrote: /snip/ Please, everyone stay safe and no more crashing! If we have another fatality in the west anytime soon, my wife might pull the plug on her support for this hobby./snip/ Please fly safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One way to fly safe - er, is to avoid being in the vicinity of other aircraft. Easy for me to say! That might mean no contests? Brian W Given the current turmoil with ADS-B vs. Powerflarm, etc....the smartest investment might not be any avionics at all, but a ballistic recovery chute. -- Mike Schumann Mike, with respect, it seems that you are quite fixated on ADS-B and the way FLARM was (not) introduced to the US, and that you respond to every post with that filter. I don't see the turmoil; I have a transponder, so if you have powerflarm you will see me. If you have ADS-B, flarm, or powerflarm I will see you, because I am going to have a powerflarm ASAP. So you have flarm or powerflarm you will see me again. If power traffic is a threat I will see it (their transponder). If they have ATC following, or TCAS they will see my transponder. The turmoil, is it that the exact form of what we will be using in 10 years is not clear? That seems a separate subject. And the ballistic chute, like that Cirrus had that went through the tow plane, I recall they burned on the way down, not a fun ride. It's speculation, but if you project that into next year, and that glider on tow had powerflarm it (in theory) would have alerted the glider to the incoming cirrus when it alerted to the transponder and that could have made the difference. Any way you slice it the $1,600 seems like cheap insurance to me. Brian There are a lot of people drinking the PowerFlarm koolaid. PowerFlarm will not see everyone. In remote areas, where there are no ADS-B ground stations and transponders are not interrogated by radar systems, PowerFlarm will not see other aircraft that are equipped with conventional transponders or ADS-B UAT transponders. I'm not pushing any particular technology. My only point is that the cornerstone of an effective collision avoidance strategy is to have everyone utilize a single common technology. Ten years ago that could have been FLARM, ADS-B UAT, or ....... What we have now is a huge mess, where the FAA is pushing two flavors of ADS-B, which can't see each other in remote low altitude environments, and now the glider community is going off on their own with FLARM. Maybe this will all shake out over the next ten years and everyone will end up gravitating to one of these technologies. On the other hand, we could also end up with ten more years of the current mayhem and fatal accidents. -- Mike Schumann |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On Aug 9, 4:09*pm, "Tim Mara" wrote:
I am one of the *TRIG dealers so take this as you will......but I've delivered so far about 40 of these...had only one that had an issue that I know of and it was a user error that cause the failure..and best of all, it was simply replaced by our distributor, no questions asked for a brand new one.....so from what I can see these have been absolutely excellent so far.....and support have been 1st class...I'm still selling and delivering them now and have not seen any reason not to continue! Tim Mara Thanks Tim. |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On 8/10/2010 7:37 AM, Grider Pirate wrote:
On Aug 9, 4:09 pm, "Tim wrote: I am one of the TRIG dealers so take this as you will......but I've delivered so far about 40 of these...had only one that had an issue that I know of and it was a user error that cause the failure..and best of all, it was simply replaced by our distributor, no questions asked for a brand new one.....so from what I can see these have been absolutely excellent so far.....and support have been 1st class...I'm still selling and delivering them now and have not seen any reason not to continue! Tim Mara Thanks Tim. Are any of them interfaced with a GPS navigation source and being used for ADS-B out? -- Mike Schumann |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On 8/10/2010 12:07 AM, Mike Schumann wrote:
There are a lot of people drinking the PowerFlarm koolaid. PowerFlarm will not see everyone. It is not the perfect solution, so you reject it entirely? We have to use the best of what is available to us, and right now that is PowerFlarm. |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On 8/10/2010 2:58 PM, Greg Arnold wrote:
On 8/10/2010 12:07 AM, Mike Schumann wrote: There are a lot of people drinking the PowerFlarm koolaid. PowerFlarm will not see everyone. It is not the perfect solution, so you reject it entirely? We have to use the best of what is available to us, and right now that is PowerFlarm. Powerflarm is not yet shipping. The Navworx ADS-B transceiver is. Right now, ADS-B and PCAS are your options. -- Mike Schumann |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On Aug 10, 1:29*pm, Mike Schumann
wrote: Powerflarm is not yet shipping. *The Navworx ADS-B transceiver is. Right now, ADS-B and PCAS are your options. -- Mike Schumann Mike - And the Navworx unit that you so heavily promote is $1500 + whatever the cost for a display (I see some PNA software for $800, or you buy an EFIS). AND it doesn't support FLARM and I don't see where it detects and displays Mode C/S (unless you're receiving traffic relays from ground stations). --Noel |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
Correction: The Navworx RECEIVER is $1500 minimum. The transceiver
with both In & Out is $2500 - $2700. Plus display software. --Noel |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
On 8/10/2010 4:27 PM, noel.wade wrote:
Correction: The Navworx RECEIVER is $1500 minimum. The transceiver with both In& Out is $2500 - $2700. Plus display software. --Noel You can't just buy an ADS-B receiver. You need to transmit ADS-B Out to get traffic data from the ground station. You are correct. There is no perfect solution. That's my point. PowerFlarm also has its limitations. -- Mike Schumann |
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Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?
anytime...
best regards tim Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com "Grider Pirate" wrote in message ... On Aug 9, 4:09 pm, "Tim Mara" wrote: I am one of the TRIG dealers so take this as you will......but I've delivered so far about 40 of these...had only one that had an issue that I know of and it was a user error that cause the failure..and best of all, it was simply replaced by our distributor, no questions asked for a brand new one.....so from what I can see these have been absolutely excellent so far.....and support have been 1st class...I'm still selling and delivering them now and have not seen any reason not to continue! Tim Mara Thanks Tim. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5356 (20100810) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5356 (20100810) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com |
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