Cirrus crash in NYC

Look out! Fox was interviewing some Congresscritter saying, 'we've got to
put an end to unrestricted general aviation, think what could have happened
had this been a terrorist'.
Of couse this ignores the fact that there already are no corridors over NYC
where GA can fly w/out being in contact w/ATC.
This flurry of Minden/Brazil/NYC may put our aviation rights/privileges at
risk.

Background - A Cirrus crashed into a building in midtown, killing 2 in the
aircraft; one on the ground. Cause of the crash is unknown.

SAM 303a wrote:
Look out! Fox was interviewing some Congresscritter saying, 'we've got to
put an end to unrestricted general aviation, think what could have happened
had this been a terrorist'.
Of couse this ignores the fact that there already are no corridors over NYC
where GA can fly w/out being in contact w/ATC.
This flurry of Minden/Brazil/NYC may put our aviation rights/privileges at
risk.

Background - A Cirrus crashed into a building in midtown, killing 2 in the
aircraft; one on the ground. Cause of the crash is unknown.

Reports say the plane belonge to NY Yankee pitcher Corey Lytle and that
his passport was found on the ground. Seems the plane circled the
Statue of Liberty and was 'flying erratically' before the crash.

Only what I heard on the long drive home in the rain..............

Chip F.

SAM 303a wrote:
Look out! Fox was interviewing some Congresscritter saying, 'we've got to
put an end to unrestricted general aviation, think what could have happened
had this been a terrorist'.
Of couse this ignores the fact that there already are no corridors over NYC
where GA can fly w/out being in contact w/ATC.

Not true. There are VFR corridors up both the Hudson and the East
Rivers in New York CIty. The Cirrus was in the East River VFR corridor,
near the dead end prior to LaGuardia airspace, where they would have to
turn around. There was another aircraft nearby, and there is
speculation that they may have lost control in an evasive maneuver.

The pilot and aircraft owner is reported to be NY Yankee Pitcher Cory
Lidle, and he is also reported to have been with an instructor.

Reports say the plane belonge to NY Yankee pitcher Corey Lytle and that
his passport was found on the ground.

Interesting, wonder why he had his passport with him?
Didn't one of the 9-11 hijackers have his passport found in the
wreckage too?

Brad

At 00:36 12 October 2006, Brad wrote:

Reports say the plane belonge to NY Yankee pitcher
Corey Lytle and that
his passport was found on the ground.

Interesting, wonder why he had his passport with him?


If they in fact departed from an airport like Teterboro...going
through the gate security probably does not require
a passport...but rather then showing a million pieces
of ID, including our lame FAA ticket with no photo....I
think carrying a passport would be SOP to get through
the gate. In the near future visits to Mexico and
Canada will require them. I don't carry mine currently
in the glider, but probably will start.

And the ever vigilent airport manager at Salida, CO
changes the gate combination every month just to keep
those terrorist hiding out in the SangreDeChristos
from sneaking in

Gotta admit I usually keep my passport in the car, since I travel to
Delta BC on business frequently. And it seems to speed things along at
the border. Plus when flying commercial they seem to like 'em

But it seems weird that this was mentioned.

Brad

who's home airport now has a keypad too...................


Stewart Kissel wrote:
At 00:36 12 October 2006, Brad wrote:

Reports say the plane belonge to NY Yankee pitcher
Corey Lytle and that
his passport was found on the ground.

Interesting, wonder why he had his passport with him?


If they in fact departed from an airport like Teterboro...going
through the gate security probably does not require
a passport...but rather then showing a million pieces
of ID, including our lame FAA ticket with no photo....I
think carrying a passport would be SOP to get through
the gate. In the near future visits to Mexico and
Canada will require them. I don't carry mine currently
in the glider, but probably will start.

And the ever vigilent airport manager at Salida, CO
changes the gate combination every month just to keep
those terrorist hiding out in the SangreDeChristos
from sneaking in

Doug Haluza wrote:
SAM 303a wrote:
Look out! Fox was interviewing some Congresscritter saying, 'we've got to
put an end to unrestricted general aviation, think what could have happened
had this been a terrorist'.
Of couse this ignores the fact that there already are no corridors over NYC
where GA can fly w/out being in contact w/ATC.

Not true. There are VFR corridors up both the Hudson and the East
Rivers in New York CIty. The Cirrus was in the East River VFR corridor,
near the dead end prior to LaGuardia airspace, where
they would have to
turn around.

if you initiate the left U-turn over Roosevelt Island , and won't be
very agressive from the very beginning...you will end up at east 72nd
Street. And you bet, the last seconds you will fly very erratically.
It's a narrow place.

From the news footage it looks like it was raining and overcast.

The SR 20 has as standard a parachute like all the cirrus range !

Can someone explain these VFR corridors around Manhattan?
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In the UK, when flying VFR we should always fly so that we can always
land clear of densely populated areas.
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I cannot see how a VFR corridor up a river surrounded by skyscrapers is
compatible with that concept.
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Does the FAA guidance require pilots to be able to land clear of
built-up areas?
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Rory

Land in the river ---

Rory O'Conor wrote:
Can someone explain these VFR corridors around Manhattan?
=20
In the UK, when flying VFR we should always fly so that we can always
land clear of densely populated areas.
=20
I cannot see how a VFR corridor up a river surrounded by skyscrapers is
compatible with that concept.
=20
Does the FAA guidance require pilots to be able to land clear of
built-up areas?
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Rory