an exercise for sim pilots -- a 1 G roll

"Tony" wrote in message
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About a year ago there was a spirited discussion about maintaining a 1
G 'straight into the seat' force while doing a roll (let's define a
roll as rotating the airplane, somehow, 360 degrees around its axis
with respect to the horizon). As I rmember the analysis, if you have
enough control authority if you accelerate downward at 1 G and pull
hard enough while doing a coordinated roll you can do just that. A
blindfolded passenger would know the roll happened.

Are there any skilled sim players out there who can do this? I'm
especially interested in what airplanes have enough (simulated) control
authority to pull it off.


It's not possible with my current setup. Maybe someone else will have better
luck.

"Tony" wrote in message
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About a year ago there was a spirited discussion about maintaining a 1
G 'straight into the seat' force while doing a roll (let's define a
roll as rotating the airplane, somehow, 360 degrees around its axis
with respect to the horizon). As I rmember the analysis, if you have
enough control authority if you accelerate downward at 1 G and pull
hard enough while doing a coordinated roll you can do just that. A
blindfolded passenger would know the roll happened.

Are there any skilled sim players out there who can do this? I'm
especially interested in what airplanes have enough (simulated) control
authority to pull it off.
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Has anyone else seen the video of the 707 doing a barrel roll. The test
pilot on his own did this maneuver when Boeing was showing off the plane to
potential customers. He knew the plane could do this maneuver, but knew he
would not be given permission to do it from management. He did it once,
turned around and did it again.

One key to the barrel roll is you are using aircraft pitch a lot to get the
nose around. Many airplanes with sluggish roll can do a barrel roll, even
though they can't do an aileron roll.

Danny Deger

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Has anyone else seen the video of the 707 doing a barrel roll. The test
pilot on his own did this maneuver when Boeing was showing off the plane
to
potential customers. He knew the plane could do this maneuver, but knew
he
would not be given permission to do it from management. He did it once,
turned around and did it again.

I heard the story at the museum in DC where they have that very 707 on
display.

The company execs didn't know he was going to do the roll either and
afterwards one of the execs told a manager to fire the test pilot. The
manager said that he couldn't do that because that particular pilot was the
only one who knew how to fly the plane at the time.

BDS

Danny Deger wrote:

Has anyone else seen the video of the 707 doing a barrel roll. The test
pilot on his own did this maneuver when Boeing was showing off the plane to
potential customers. He knew the plane could do this maneuver, but knew he
would not be given permission to do it from management. He did it once,
turned around and did it again.

One key to the barrel roll is you are using aircraft pitch a lot to get the
nose around. Many airplanes with sluggish roll can do a barrel roll, even
though they can't do an aileron roll.

Danny Deger


GOOGLE: "Tex" Johnson+Boeing

"john smith" wrote in message
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Danny Deger wrote:

Has anyone else seen the video of the 707 doing a barrel roll. The test
pilot on his own did this maneuver when Boeing was showing off the plane
to potential customers. He knew the plane could do this maneuver, but
knew he would not be given permission to do it from management. He did it
once, turned around and did it again.

One key to the barrel roll is you are using aircraft pitch a lot to get
the nose around. Many airplanes with sluggish roll can do a barrel roll,
even though they can't do an aileron roll.

Danny Deger


GOOGLE: "Tex" Johnson+Boeing


The Google worked. It found this link that has a video
http://www.orizzle.com/htm/v/020.htm

Danny Deger