Melbourne FL airport -- approach

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message

... [JFKjr may have had
this problem]

Perhaps in the inverse. Your scenario is one where you can see a lot, but
you don't realize it is still not enough. His problem was that he could see
very little, but thought it was enough. Both pilots are wrong.

Capt. Bob Moore can attest to this, however most large airports on the
East coast have approaches over water. Most of these airports were
WWII fields or products of since they were originally setup for
training, and was cheap real estate at the time. I always take 91.3,
if I take fery good care of myself, everyone in the back will be fine.

Bush

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:35:28 -0500, Tim923
wrote:

I don't have an aviation background but was just curious. It seemed
that during the approach into Melbourne, FL we were relatively quite
low to the ground/water (as compared to other airports). Do planes
fly low into Melbourne?

Bush wrote

Capt. Bob Moore can attest to this, however most large airports
on the East coast have approaches over water. Most of these
airports were WWII fields or products of since they were
originally setup for training, and was cheap real estate at the
time. I always take 91.3, if I take fery good care of myself,
everyone in the back will be fine.

Seems as if almost all of PanAm's worldwide destinations were
served by seaside airports. But then, I had spent most of my 10
years of Navy flying (P-2 P-3) at 100'-200' over water both night
and IMC. Hand flying a P-2 Neptune for 12 hours at 100' at night
could very well test one's mettle.

Bob Moore
VP-21 1959-1962
VP-46 1965-1967

In article , Bob Moore wrote:
Bush wrote

Capt. Bob Moore can attest to this, however most large airports
on the East coast have approaches over water. Most of these
airports were WWII fields or products of since they were
originally setup for training, and was cheap real estate at the
time. I always take 91.3, if I take fery good care of myself,
everyone in the back will be fine.

Seems as if almost all of PanAm's worldwide destinations were
served by seaside airports. But then, I had spent most of my 10
years of Navy flying (P-2 P-3) at 100'-200' over water both night
and IMC. Hand flying a P-2 Neptune for 12 hours at 100' at night
could very well test one's mettle.

Can only imagine! That sounds pretty challenging, to maintain that level
of proficiency for so long and not get trapped by various risk factors.

Just out of sheer curiosity, what made 100' AGL suitable, but not higher
altitudes? Climb performance, density altitude, weight limits?

-Dan

Dan Foster wrote

Just out of sheer curiosity, what made 100' AGL suitable, but
not higher altitudes? Climb performance, density altitude,
weight limits?

A lot of the time, it was the limited range of the Magnetic
Detection equipment for tracking a submerged submarine. The
lower you flew. the better your chances of maintaining contact.
Hell....the S-2Fs were flying lower than we were, but they
only had a 4-6 hour mission. :-) Airline flying was a Piece of
Cake compared to anti-submarine work. I thought that I had
died and gone to heaven when I joined PanAm. :-)

Bob Moore

Looking for submarines magnetic signature would be my guess.



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"Dan Foster" wrote in message
...
| In article
, Bob
Moore wrote:
| Bush wrote
|
| Capt. Bob Moore can attest to this, however most large
airports
| on the East coast have approaches over water. Most of
these
| airports were WWII fields or products of since they
were
| originally setup for training, and was cheap real
estate at the
| time. I always take 91.3, if I take fery good care of
myself,
| everyone in the back will be fine.
|
| Seems as if almost all of PanAm's worldwide destinations
were
| served by seaside airports. But then, I had spent most
of my 10
| years of Navy flying (P-2 P-3) at 100'-200' over water
both night
| and IMC. Hand flying a P-2 Neptune for 12 hours at 100'
at night
| could very well test one's mettle.
|
| Can only imagine! That sounds pretty challenging, to
maintain that level
| of proficiency for so long and not get trapped by various
risk factors.
|
| Just out of sheer curiosity, what made 100' AGL suitable,
but not higher
| altitudes? Climb performance, density altitude, weight
limits?
|
| -Dan

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
. 121...
Bush wrote

Capt. Bob Moore can attest to this, however most large airports
on the East coast have approaches over water. Most of these
airports were WWII fields or products of since they were
originally setup for training, and was cheap real estate at the
time. I always take 91.3, if I take fery good care of myself,
everyone in the back will be fine.

Seems as if almost all of PanAm's worldwide destinations were
served by seaside airports. But then, I had spent most of my 10
years of Navy flying (P-2 P-3) at 100'-200' over water both night
and IMC. Hand flying a P-2 Neptune for 12 hours at 100' at night
could very well test one's mettle.

Bob Moore
VP-21 1959-1962
VP-46 1965-1967

Bob,

Did you guys ever feather the inboards for extended loiter time?

Seems I've seen pics of this.

Jay B

"Jay Beckman" wrote

Did you guys ever feather the inboards for extended loiter time?
Seems I've seen pics of this.

Nope! But we did shutdown the "outboard" engines. :-)

Bob

Bob Moore wrote:

Seems as if almost all of PanAm's worldwide destinations were
served by seaside airports.

PanAm started service to most of these places before there were airports there.
They flew seaplanes in. People eventually built airports in the same cities.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
. 122...
"Jay Beckman" wrote

Did you guys ever feather the inboards for extended loiter time?
Seems I've seen pics of this.

Nope! But we did shutdown the "outboard" engines. :-)

Bob

Ah, ok. Just as long as it was one on *each* side...

Jay B