Sad day for Mxsmanic

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Mxsmanic wrote:
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Yep, all the software for DOS and an EGA display, not to mention the
Apple II stuff is still running, assuming you can find hardware that
still runs outside a museum.

Well-behaved MS-DOS applications do indeed still run today. And of
course
MS-DOS itself still runs.

So you are admitting that not ALL DOS applications will run today,
only "Well-behaved MS-DOS applications"?



They are medicated with Ritalin to keep them in-line.

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Emulators, my good man! You can find them for nearly any system. There
are plenty of good Apple II emulators out there, good enough to run
pretty much any software made for them. There are even emulators for old
DOS machines that will run in Windows that will do a much better job of
running old software than Windows itself will: check out DOSBox for that
one.

RSTS/E, RSX-11, RT-11, TOPS-10, TOPS-20, VMS...

PDP-6, PDP-8, PDP-10, PDP-11, VAX...

That's just one company.

How about a GE 150, Burroughs B2500, Honeywell H316, SDS 900?

CPU's, OS's and their libraries go obsolete and become unsupportable.

The software is on EBCDIC punch cards, got an emualtor to read those?

Many of your systems do have emulators or simulators available, in fact.
(This page has a whole bunch: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/) True
enough that some don't, as far as I could find with a cursory search.
But it took a *very* long time for that to happen, and none of them had
anything like the ubiquity of the Microsoft platform. I would fully
expect Windows software to be usable until the very end of time. People
might not care about writing emulators for such hardware, but Intel x86
emulators and Windows API translation layers will probably be maintained
forever.

Even if they're not, it's going to take decades at the least before a
new copy MSFS stops being usable.

I have to say, while MX is the king of disputing anything and everything
just because he can, a lot of the people who reply to him aren't much
better. Perhaps when he said that "Software doesn't wear out" he failed
to apply the proper caveats and qualifiers to this statement, but his
overall *point*, that MSFS still works and will still works even though
it's no longer being developed, was entirely sound, and really didn't
merit an argument.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

Mike Ash wrote:
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Mxsmanic wrote:
John Godwin writes:

It seems as if Microsoft is pulling the plug on MS Flight Simulator.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7902468.stm

Existing copies of MSFS will continue to run indefinitely. Software doesn't
wear out.

Yep, all the software for DOS and an EGA display, not to mention the
Apple II stuff is still running, assuming you can find hardware that
still runs outside a museum.

Emulators, my good man! You can find them for nearly any system. There
are plenty of good Apple II emulators out there, good enough to run
pretty much any software made for them. There are even emulators for old
DOS machines that will run in Windows that will do a much better job of
running old software than Windows itself will: check out DOSBox for that
one.

I've even found CDC 6600 emulators!

On Feb 24, 4:53*am, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

Since DOS didn't support USB, there's no need to recognize a USB joystick
in
DOS applications.

You can't even understand what others mean in their posts. No wonder your a
shut in, social interaction with you has to be tedious at best.

Hey be fair. The pillock doesn't realise that his "Windows" is just a
DOS application

On Feb 24, 9:12*am, Blanche wrote:

I've even found CDC 6600 emulators!

I have a couple of TRS80 emulators and no floppy ancient enough to
read the floppies

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Mike Ash wrote:
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Mxsmanic wrote:
John Godwin writes:

It seems as if Microsoft is pulling the plug on MS Flight Simulator.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7902468.stm

Existing copies of MSFS will continue to run indefinitely. Software
doesn't
wear out.

Yep, all the software for DOS and an EGA display, not to mention the
Apple II stuff is still running, assuming you can find hardware that
still runs outside a museum.

Emulators, my good man! You can find them for nearly any system. There
are plenty of good Apple II emulators out there, good enough to run
pretty much any software made for them. There are even emulators for old
DOS machines that will run in Windows that will do a much better job of
running old software than Windows itself will: check out DOSBox for that
one.

I've even found CDC 6600 emulators!


Man I was just digging that I can play Duckhunt on my computer!

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

For the same reason I'm really good at killing zombies on my computer, it
isn't real life you nitwit.

Unfortunately, that's not an answer. The reality is that there is no basis
for your assertion.

It has long been taken as gospel that a non-pilot could never land an
airliner, and as long as one sticks to the outdated assumption that he'd have
to actually take the controls, that's probably true. But today's airliners
are so heavily automated that they can be flown and landed without ever
touching the flight controls, so the dogma of yesteryear is no longer
applicable.

Steve Foley writes:

It has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction that any other outcome is
possible.

That is not the same as demonstrating that it would end in disaster.

I do not accept your conjecture as proof.

Likewise.

When you have evidence that someone with nothing but simulator experience
has successfully landed an airliner full of passengers, let me know.

The non-pilot would not need simulator experience. He would only need the
ability to follow instructions, along with a cool head.

george writes:

I have a couple of TRS80 emulators and no floppy ancient enough to
read the floppies

I'm sure there are actual TRS-80 computers out there and running as well.

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So you are admitting that not ALL DOS applications will run today,
only "Well-behaved MS-DOS applications"?

Yes. Poorly written applications may stop running even from one update of an
operating system to the next. In the case of MS-DOS, many such applications
bypassed the OS to access the BIOS or the hardware directly, and applications
like those often stopped running long ago (sometimes even under MS-DOS).