GA headed for regulatory trouble

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

If it was for weather, it would seem kind of odd for him to
do that. Usually an aircraft with weather issues is left in the IFR
system.

Assuming the conditions allow, the pilot(s) can have much greater
flexibility to deviate around thunderstorms when VFR.

--
Peter

Really? I thought the procedure was to tell the controller: "N12345 is
deviating north around convective activity" and let the controller sort it
out. In the end, it is the pilot's responsibility to manage the safety of
his craft, not the controller's...

Did Waco or Ruby Ridge "wake the sheep?"

Isn't sex with the 12 year old daughter of your parishioner illegal?

Thank you.

The moment GA starts to associate itself with the nutcases at Waco and Ruby
Ridge is the moment we lose the few shreds of credibility we have left with
the general public.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Y11xe.118251$xm3.23216@attbi_s21...
Did Waco or Ruby Ridge "wake the sheep?"

Isn't sex with the 12 year old daughter of your parishioner illegal?

Disproved. Thanks for being a good little menchen for der fuhrer.


Thank you.

The moment GA starts to associate itself with the nutcases at Waco and
Ruby
Ridge is the moment we lose the few shreds of credibility we have left
with
the general public.

Jay, the only nutcases at Waco and Ruby Ridge were the BATF and FBI.

Thank you for demonstrating that so many are gullible enough to swallow the
statist line.


Matt B.
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when we work together, believe
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and one of the founders of the ACLU.

Kyle Boatright wrote:

Really? I thought the procedure was to tell the controller: "N12345 is
deviating north around convective activity" and let the controller sort it
out. In the end, it is the pilot's responsibility to manage the safety of
his craft, not the controller's...

That certainly is true. However, just today, while listening to the
Detroit LiveATC.net feed when a severe thunderstorm line moved over the
airport (about 12:00 Eastern Time), I overheard the following exchange:

"Detroit Approach, Northwest XXX needs to deviate right off the approach
for weather. We're about to fly into heavy precipitation."

"Negative, Northwest XXX, I need you on that heading. There are numerous
aircraft off to your right."

"Roger, Northwest XXX."

I was surprised to hear the pilot agree to remain on the heading, but
perhaps he surmised that the turbulence of level 3-4 weather was safer than
turning into a swarm of aircraft?

To your point, though, there are numerous strategies for avoiding t-storms
and one viable strategy is to cancel IFR and fly under the greater freedom
of VFR, especially in very congested airspace.

--
Peter


















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Skylune wrote:
Phil Boyer will need to get a new bumper sticker. Instead of "I fly a
Cessna 150 , 26 gallons of gas, 90 knots of screaming terror, etc." he'll
have to upgrade it to include the other GA planes, like turboprops like the
King Air.

That guy isn't doing your cause any good. Check out the smirking picture
in Letters section of the USA today that appeared about a week ago. Of
course, right after his most recent appearance, there has been another
intrusion, kids stealing planes, highway landings, etc.

What an arrogant jerk. That's who represents you.


Skylune is Boyer's ex-wife.
That explains the incessant snotty trolling.

Jay, the only nutcases at Waco and Ruby Ridge were the BATF and FBI.

Thank you for demonstrating that so many are gullible enough to swallow
the
statist line.

Do I agree with how the government handled the situations at Waco or Ruby
Ridge? Nope.

But do I want our battle to keep general aviation free and accessible
associated in any way with the causes these folks believed in? Nope.

It's a one-way trip to a place none of us wants to take GA, IMHO.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

wrote in message
ups.com...

....

The real risk to us is at the local level, namely the disappearance of
airports and the gradual shrinking of the GA base of services, driving
up costs. The recent Kelo decision scares me a lot. I've heard legal
experts take both sides, but my gut instinct is that this will
encourage municipalities to stage a lot more eminent domain raids on
unpopular properties like small airports,


http://www.ij.org/private_property/c...6_29_05pr.html

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has destroyed itself from within. ***
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- Ariel Durant 1898-1981

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:48:53 -0400, "Icebound"
wrote in
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http://www.ij.org/private_property/c...6_29_05pr.html

Thousands of properties nationwide are facing the threat of
eminent domain for private development, and many more projects are
in the planning stages. In its first-ever nationwide study Public
Power, Private Gain, the Institute for Justice documented more
than 10,000 instances of threatened or actual condemnation for
private development nationwide ...

If our government continues to permit public takings for private use,
get ready for more Kansas City style protests.

Extremely weak.

But I am not surprised that a woman had the good sense to rid herself of
the smirking fool.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:48:53 -0400, "Icebound"
wrote in
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http://www.ij.org/private_property/c...6_29_05pr.html

Thousands of properties nationwide are facing the threat of
eminent domain for private development, and many more projects are
in the planning stages. In its first-ever nationwide study Public
Power, Private Gain, the Institute for Justice documented more
than 10,000 instances of threatened or actual condemnation for
private development nationwide ...

If our government continues to permit public takings for private use,
get ready for more Kansas City style protests.



I like this New Hampshire protest:
http://nhindymedia.org/newswire/display/2507/index.php