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"Big John" wrote in message news They used to launch the Skippers private car off the cat as practice for the newbe's G Big John `````````````````````````````````````````````````` ```````` Like this! http://www.thejump.net/humor/catch-and-release.htm |
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Bob Thank you. Big John, VF-23 `````````````````````````````````````````````````` `````````````````````````````````````````````````` ````````````````````````` On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 11:49:41 GMT, Bob Moore wrote: "Jay Honeck" wrote Does *anyone* on a piloting newsgroup NOT like "Top Gun" -- undoubtedly the best flying movie of all time? From a former Naval Aviator (1958-1967), Top Gun "sucked"! Hmmm....maybe I served in a different Navy.... Bob Moore |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:hyc9d.349380$Fg5.93046@attbi_s53... If you like fake, it's great. Of course it's not 100% accurate -- it's Hollywood. (What, you mean you never flew canopy-to-canopy with the enemy while giving them "the bird", Big John?? :-) But what makes the movie great is: a) Lots of flying, afterburner flame and thunder (on a home theater, it's awesome) b) Enough of a love story to keep the women interested. It's a movie that women and men can both watch -- even though it's mostly a movie about the F-14. And my buddy's kid who did four years on the USS Carl Vinson cringes then goes ballistic at the mere mention of the movie. :~) |
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"Geoffrey Barnes" wrote in message link.net... I don't know why you would assume that. The Navy, and the DOD in general, vet movies pretty well before letting them use thier stuff and I'd be willing to bet that is a Navy CV or CVN. You may or may not have liked "Top Gun" but I wouldn't call it a bad movie. I can't think of a DOD supported film in the last 10 years that would fall into the really sucks column. At last, I have found it! Proof positive that you can't say ANYTHING in this newsgroup, not matter how innocuous, no matter how tongue-in-cheek, and not gather at least one indignantly negative response. Thanks, Gig... I really needed this last bit of proof before I published my dissertation ("Flame Wars and Hypersensitive Aviators: An Analysis of Dispute in Rec.Aviation.Piloting"), and you have given it to me! With any luck, I can get this to the committee today and get hooded at the December graduation. Wooo-hooo! I would hardly call my response a flame or in any way hypersensitive and I would defeinatly not call it an indignantly negative response. But please feel free to use your response to defend your disertation. I'm sure you'll look good in the cap. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message " -- undoubtedly the
best flying movie of all time? The Great Waldo Pepper! D. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message " -- undoubtedly the
best flying movie of all time? The Great Waldo Pepper! D. |
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 at 06:21:28 in message
, Rick Durden wrote: If you want a good flying movie, go find a copy of "633 Squadron", which is technically the most accurate flying movie ever made (plot is a little shakey, although it's based on fact), the uniforms, vehicles and aircraft are 100% accurate (according to folks who know that sort of thing) and the scenes of the Merlin powered D.H. Mosquitoes flying are excellent. The only downside is that they destroyed a Mossie filming the movie. Another flying movie that is better than "Top Gun" is "Battle of Britain" which has some extraordinary flight sequences using WWII aircraft (even though all the German airplanes have Merlin engines by the time they filmed it, about 1968). The German 109s were the Spanish version and the Spanish loaned quite a hunk of their Air Force for it! I agree about ' Battle of Britain' I just watched it again and it is good. Some of the crash sequences looked faked because they _are_, when the rest of the some flight looks real. As I recall 'Catch 22' had some good flying in it as well - I believe 19 real B25s were flown in that. -- David CL Francis |
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 at 06:21:28 in message
, Rick Durden wrote: If you want a good flying movie, go find a copy of "633 Squadron", which is technically the most accurate flying movie ever made (plot is a little shakey, although it's based on fact), the uniforms, vehicles and aircraft are 100% accurate (according to folks who know that sort of thing) and the scenes of the Merlin powered D.H. Mosquitoes flying are excellent. The only downside is that they destroyed a Mossie filming the movie. Another flying movie that is better than "Top Gun" is "Battle of Britain" which has some extraordinary flight sequences using WWII aircraft (even though all the German airplanes have Merlin engines by the time they filmed it, about 1968). The German 109s were the Spanish version and the Spanish loaned quite a hunk of their Air Force for it! I agree about ' Battle of Britain' I just watched it again and it is good. Some of the crash sequences looked faked because they _are_, when the rest of the some flight looks real. As I recall 'Catch 22' had some good flying in it as well - I believe 19 real B25s were flown in that. -- David CL Francis |
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By the way the plane design is heavily borrowed from a Northrop patent. It
was given the name of switchblade by Internet people when patent appeared back in 1995 as far as I remember, and there are plenty of digital mockups of it around. Todd Pattist wrote: I thought some of you might like to see our new stealth fighter: The plane in these pictures is still officially Air Vehicle Number 1, a prototype on board the USS Washington for catapult fit checks. It's not exactly top secret, but certainly not public info. To be known as the F/A-37. Although specs are classified, it is believed to be a Mach 3.5 (top speed in the Mach 4 range), super-cruise stealth fighter/bomber/interceptor with approximately a 4000 mile range. Awesome! http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...-37on_deck.jpg http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...-A-37_cat1.jpg http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...A-37_pilot.jpg http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...37catapult.jpg Look at the pictures first ;-) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * Hollywood Joins Abe Underway to Film 'Stealth' Release Date: 6/23/2004 1:57:00 PM By Journalist Seaman Michael Cook, USS Abraham Lincoln Public Affairs This airplane has been making the rounds for several weeks now, with folks being a bit confused as to whether it is the real deal. On 18 June 2004 a scene for the upcoming Columbia Tri-Star movie "Stealth" was filmed on the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72). Lincoln was conducting local operations in preparation for an upcoming scheduled deployment after 10 months of dry docked Planned Incremental Availability (PIA). About 80 cast and crew members were aboard the Everett-based aircraft carrier to shoot scenes for the Columbia Pictures action film starring Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel and Sam Shepard, The $130 million film is expected to hit theaters in 2005. According to the back story, the F/A-37 "Talon" is a Mach 3.5, super cruise stealth fighter/bomber/interceptor with a 4000nm range. Top speed is somewhere in the Mach 4+ range. The movie is premised on an artificial-intelligence program designed to fly jet aircraft and reduce human casualties. Not surprisingly, one of the AI robo-pilots runs amok when Navy officials decide to use an unmanned version of the ?Talon?. When the plane begins attacking friendly forces, Navy pilots are called in to save the planet from artificial intelligence. I looked up the movie "Stealth" and it looks like a July release next year. That female pilot is Jessica Biel. Sam Shepard and Jamie Foxx are in the movie. Debunked! "It is possible to fly without motors, but not without knowledge and skill." Wilbur Wright |
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By the way the plane design is heavily borrowed from a Northrop patent. It
was given the name of switchblade by Internet people when patent appeared back in 1995 as far as I remember, and there are plenty of digital mockups of it around. Todd Pattist wrote: I thought some of you might like to see our new stealth fighter: The plane in these pictures is still officially Air Vehicle Number 1, a prototype on board the USS Washington for catapult fit checks. It's not exactly top secret, but certainly not public info. To be known as the F/A-37. Although specs are classified, it is believed to be a Mach 3.5 (top speed in the Mach 4 range), super-cruise stealth fighter/bomber/interceptor with approximately a 4000 mile range. Awesome! http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...-37on_deck.jpg http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...-A-37_cat1.jpg http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...A-37_pilot.jpg http://pages.cthome.net/pattist/imag...37catapult.jpg Look at the pictures first ;-) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * Hollywood Joins Abe Underway to Film 'Stealth' Release Date: 6/23/2004 1:57:00 PM By Journalist Seaman Michael Cook, USS Abraham Lincoln Public Affairs This airplane has been making the rounds for several weeks now, with folks being a bit confused as to whether it is the real deal. On 18 June 2004 a scene for the upcoming Columbia Tri-Star movie "Stealth" was filmed on the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72). Lincoln was conducting local operations in preparation for an upcoming scheduled deployment after 10 months of dry docked Planned Incremental Availability (PIA). About 80 cast and crew members were aboard the Everett-based aircraft carrier to shoot scenes for the Columbia Pictures action film starring Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel and Sam Shepard, The $130 million film is expected to hit theaters in 2005. According to the back story, the F/A-37 "Talon" is a Mach 3.5, super cruise stealth fighter/bomber/interceptor with a 4000nm range. Top speed is somewhere in the Mach 4+ range. The movie is premised on an artificial-intelligence program designed to fly jet aircraft and reduce human casualties. Not surprisingly, one of the AI robo-pilots runs amok when Navy officials decide to use an unmanned version of the ?Talon?. When the plane begins attacking friendly forces, Navy pilots are called in to save the planet from artificial intelligence. I looked up the movie "Stealth" and it looks like a July release next year. That female pilot is Jessica Biel. Sam Shepard and Jamie Foxx are in the movie. Debunked! "It is possible to fly without motors, but not without knowledge and skill." Wilbur Wright |
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