NetJets Layoff

wrote:

You don't pay for unemployment benefits, the companies do in the form
of unemployment insurance premiums.

Did you think about his before you posted it? And where do the
companies get the money to pay their insurance? Hint: Jay was right.

Matt

wrote:

I don't understand the real world? You sound like my teenage daughter.

That is correct based on your last statement about who really pays for
uemployment insurance. You also don't understand how to post to usenet
properly. Hint: it isn't by posting at the top.

Matt

Jose wrote:

Then why have unemployment benefits at all?


For the same reason we have any insurance - spread the risk.

And because we become more socialistic every day.

Matt

wrote in message
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I don't understand the real world? You sound like my teenage daughter.

I don't recall saying anywhere that I believe the NetJets layoff was
illegal, unlawful, or even wrong. A company that's having financial
problems has to make adjustments to survive, and layoffs are a viable
means.

It cracks me up that a few of you armchair lawyers (who know nothing
about what happened beyond what I wrote) jump in with your judgment
that NetJets did no wrong... when I can't even tell you one way or
another and I've read the documents and spoke with the 'voluntary
resignees'.

HOW a company choses to terminate employees is also done at their
discretion, as long as it is done within the boundaries of the law.
I'd be more than happy to give you an 'unbiased' report, but I've yet
to hear NetJets' side of the story.

Since they must be talking with a few of you in the know, I'm open to
hearing what you know.

Joe

I do believe you were the one that spouted law suit, discrimination and
several other legal opinions. Knowing who runs NetJets my money is on the
fact they had their ducks well lined up and the input you have provided from
sour grapes employees is probably somewhat distant from the truth. Been
there, saw what the employees claimed and knew the truth which was not even
close to what they were saying. Your lack of understanding of who really
pays for unemployment benefits (hint, look at your pay stub) leads one to
believe you might not have a good understanding of the employment laws in
this country. Having laid off numerous long term employees and fired many
for cause over a 25 year period you can bet I know the labor laws involved.
OBTW in case you think my views are one sided I have been on the other side
of the fence three times.

Layoffs suck and those that burn bridges tend to lose in the long run.
Those that see it as an opportunity in large percentages end up better than
they were. It's a 'get over it and get on with life' situation. In the
long run it's not a big deal.

("Matt Whiting" wrote)
You also don't understand how to post to usenet properly. Hint: it isn't
by posting at the top.


Oh June, we hardly knew ya.


Montblack

Having owned a business for only about 1/2 my life, I'll have to defer
to the experts on this.

Matt Whiting wrote:
wrote:

You don't pay for unemployment benefits, the companies do in the form
of unemployment insurance premiums.

Did you think about his before you posted it? And where do the
companies get the money to pay their insurance? Hint: Jay was right.

Matt

wrote:

Having owned a business for only about 1/2 my life, I'll have to defer
to the experts on this.

Matt Whiting wrote:

wrote:


You don't pay for unemployment benefits, the companies do in the form
of unemployment insurance premiums.

Did you think about his before you posted it? And where do the
companies get the money to pay their insurance? Hint: Jay was right.

Matt



You haven't learned much about economics during your tenure as a small
business owner. What kind of business to do you own?


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Having owned a business for only about 1/2 my life, I'll have to defer
to the experts on this.

Matt Whiting wrote:

wrote:


You don't pay for unemployment benefits, the companies do in the form
of unemployment insurance premiums.

Did you think about his before you posted it? And where do the
companies get the money to pay their insurance? Hint: Jay was right.

Matt



You haven't learned much about economics during your tenure as a small
business owner. What kind of business to do you own?


Matt

I think the key might be to determine how old he is.

How can I argue with someone who believes he knows not only the details
of a 12+ page separation agreement without seeing it, but also my
business strengths and weaknesses without even knowing who I am or what
I do? ;-)

All I can really say is the government or taxpayers have yet to pay any
unemployment for my employees. The business pays premiums for
unemployment benefits. Like any other form of insurance, if you have
claims made against the policy, the premiums go up.

You don't need to be an economist to understand this.

Matt Whiting wrote:
wrote:

Having owned a business for only about 1/2 my life, I'll have to defer
to the experts on this.

Matt Whiting wrote:

wrote:


You don't pay for unemployment benefits, the companies do in the form
of unemployment insurance premiums.

Did you think about his before you posted it? And where do the
companies get the money to pay their insurance? Hint: Jay was right.

Matt



You haven't learned much about economics during your tenure as a small
business owner. What kind of business to do you own?


Matt

wrote:

How can I argue with someone who believes he knows not only the details
of a 12+ page separation agreement without seeing it, but also my
business strengths and weaknesses without even knowing who I am or what
I do? ;-)

All I can really say is the government or taxpayers have yet to pay any
unemployment for my employees.

So your customers are all folks outside the US or tax evaders?


Matt