B-58 Hustler

For those of you who haven't seen it, try my B-58 Hustler home page link
below. Make sure you click on the ANNEX link. That's 3 pages of pictures
and data on the Hustler. Don't forget to sign the new Guest Book.
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In article jin9c.9912$wl1.8157@fed1read06, Darrell
wrote:

For those of you who haven't seen it, try my B-58 Hustler home page link
below. Make sure you click on the ANNEX link. That's 3 pages of pictures
and data on the Hustler. Don't forget to sign the new Guest Book.

I have been keeping track of all of the retired B-58's that are still
in existance. http://www.johnweeks.com/b58.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708
Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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Nice links, John,
I'll mark that site for use.

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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
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In article jin9c.9912$wl1.8157@fed1read06, Darrell
wrote:

For those of you who haven't seen it, try my B-58 Hustler home page link
below. Make sure you click on the ANNEX link. That's 3 pages of
pictures
and data on the Hustler. Don't forget to sign the new Guest Book.

I have been keeping track of all of the retired B-58's that are still
in existance. http://www.johnweeks.com/b58.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708
Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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Low level flight. Back then, in the early 60s, there were no
restrictions on VFR low level, other than stay out of airport control
zones, towns, and obey the general altitude restrictions. We used to
fly cross country low level - lead doing the nav and wing watching for
traffic. Down at 500 AGL and (usually) 360KIAS (for time - miles per
gallon was pretty much the same at 360/420) there was very seldom
anybody to be seen. We used to go into base ops, look at the weather
map for a nice big H, grab a stack of ONC charts, tear off a four inch
wide strip along the route, tape them together, draw the course line,
put time and mileage marks on them and off we'd go. BTW a clean 104A
could go 400 nm on the deck with plenty of fuel left. Later on the
USAF made us file IFR and that did away (mostly) with the informal low
levels.
Walt BJ

(WaltBJ) wrote:

Low level flight. Back then, in the early 60s, there were no
restrictions on VFR low level, other than stay out of airport control
zones, towns, and obey the general altitude restrictions. We used to
fly cross country low level -

We used to do about the same with transport a/c. In those years I
was with a transport sqdn on C-119's flying service flights
between Toronto and the East Coast. Much more fun at low level
doing impromptu 'airshows' for little villages in Maine and NB
and the odd forest ranger tower operator than boring IFR at 8, 10
thousand feet.

You can't get away with fun stuff like that now...
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-Gord.

Poker Deck routes were low level VFR routes while Oil Burner (later Olive
Branch) routes were the IFR ones.

Even the OB routes had VFR segments for terrain avoidance radar practice. I
flew those in the B-52H. In the B-58 we also had high speed segments which
we flew at 600 KIAS.

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"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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Low level flight. Back then, in the early 60s, there were no
restrictions on VFR low level, other than stay out of airport control
zones, towns, and obey the general altitude restrictions. We used to
fly cross country low level - lead doing the nav and wing watching for
traffic. Down at 500 AGL and (usually) 360KIAS (for time - miles per
gallon was pretty much the same at 360/420) there was very seldom
anybody to be seen. We used to go into base ops, look at the weather
map for a nice big H, grab a stack of ONC charts, tear off a four inch
wide strip along the route, tape them together, draw the course line,
put time and mileage marks on them and off we'd go. BTW a clean 104A
could go 400 nm on the deck with plenty of fuel left. Later on the
USAF made us file IFR and that did away (mostly) with the informal low
levels.
Walt BJ

Darrell wrote:
B-58 we also had high speed segments which
we flew at 600 KIAS.

Darrell, how did the B-58 ride at 600KIAS down low?
The B-57 would crack your head on the canopy bouncing along at 360 on a hot
day, near 500' AGL
At least we were going slow enough to read the names of the towns as we went
by.............

Rick Clark
MFE

B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/

Darrell wrote:
B-58 we also had high speed segments which
we flew at 600 KIAS.

Darrell, how did the B-58 ride at 600KIAS down low?
The B-57 would crack your head on the canopy bouncing along at 360 on a
hot
day, near 500' AGL
At least we were going slow enough to read the names of the towns as we
went
by.............

It flew pretty smooth, Rick. With the delta wing it seemed like it cut
through the turbulence. Sort of like water skiing. With 2 skis you feel
every ripple. With a single slalom ski it bites deeper into the water and
dampens out lots of the surface turbulence. With moderate turbulence we'd
get an occasional slap-bang but not very bad. This, at a time when B-52s
were aborting the route due to turbulence.

Rick Clark
MFE

"Darrell" wrote in message
news:sTnac.30514$wl1.6853@fed1read06...
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/

Darrell wrote:
B-58 we also had high speed segments which
we flew at 600 KIAS.

Darrell, how did the B-58 ride at 600KIAS down low?
The B-57 would crack your head on the canopy bouncing along at 360 on a
hot
day, near 500' AGL
At least we were going slow enough to read the names of the towns as we
went
by.............

It flew pretty smooth, Rick. With the delta wing it seemed like it cut
through the turbulence. Sort of like water skiing. With 2 skis you feel
every ripple. With a single slalom ski it bites deeper into the water and
dampens out lots of the surface turbulence. With moderate turbulence we'd
get an occasional slap-bang but not very bad. This, at a time when B-52s
were aborting the route due to turbulence.

Since the B-58 community must have been rather small, given its limited
production and service life, I wonder if you recall ever serving with a
pilot by the name of Wright? He also flew the B-66/EB-66 at some point in
his career.

Brooks


Rick Clark
MFE

"Kevin Brooks" wrote:


Since the B-58 community must have been rather small, given its limited
production and service life, I wonder if you recall ever serving with a
pilot by the name of Wright? He also flew the B-66/EB-66 at some point in
his career.

Brooks

Did he have a brother?...
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-Gord.