Fast Boat Threat Faces Hail of Hellfires

"Faced with the threat from swarms of small
boats. the US Navy is looking to equip the
sensor turrets of its shipborne helicopters
with the ability to designate multiple targets
for simultaneous attack by laser-guided
missiles like Hellfire."

See:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...tId=b logDest

ha scritto:
"Faced with the threat from swarms of small
boats. the US Navy is looking to equip the
sensor turrets of its shipborne helicopters
with the ability to designate multiple targets
for simultaneous attack by laser-guided
missiles like Hellfire."

Hmmm.....

Seems to me an excellent idea against all boats smaller than FAC (that
is, with self-defense system with 5000 mt range), providing is an AGM
mod M and later (~8000 mt. range, non-HEAT warhead)

the HE warheads, and more so the thermobaric warhead of the N and the
shrapnel of the R should be really effective against warship or
improvised attack craft (read: pirate boats) smaller than ~300-400 tons.
but the ~8km range of the hellfire and the inherent low stealthiness of
helos on the open sea preclude stand-off attacks against ships above
~400 tons, that is, capable of carrying guns from 57mm up and/or
missiles around the seasparrow size.

OTOH, this concept can also be an excellent anti-landing system, esp. in
defence of narrow and/or steep coastlines (here in Italy the idea will
be readily adopted and more so on the other side of the Adriatic )

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

On Dec 25, 3:21*am, wrote:
"Faced with the threat from swarms of small
boats. the US Navy is looking to equip the
sensor turrets of its shipborne helicopters
with the ability to designate multiple targets
for simultaneous attack by laser-guided
missiles like Hellfire."

See:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...plckController...

An heir or counterpart to the QF guns meant to deal with torpedo
boats, as Harpoon is heir or counterpart to the bigger guns.....

On Dec 25, 5:25*am, "dott.Piergiorgio"
wrote:

{SNIP}

the ~8km range of the hellfire and the inherent low stealthiness of
helos on the open sea preclude stand-off attacks against ships above
~400 tons, that is, capable of carrying guns from 57mm up and/or
missiles around the seasparrow size.

{SNIP}

Dott. Piergiorgio.

Isn't that what Penguin is for?:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/agm-119.htm

dumpster4 wrote:

"Faced with the threat from swarms of small
boats. the US Navy is looking to equip the
sensor turrets of its shipborne helicopters
with the ability to designate multiple targets
for simultaneous attack by laser-guided
missiles like Hellfire."

See:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...ckController=B
log&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec 4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-0
1329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%
3ade07c957-e8d9-407b-a712-9f7221a31b54&plckScript=blogScript&plckElemen
tId=blogDest


I am the god of Hellfire and I bring you:

Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you burn!

You fought hard and you saved and learned

but all of it's going to burn.
And your mind
your tiny mind
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind.
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no
oh no
oh no
you gonna burn!

Fire
to destroy all you've done.
Fire
to end all you've become.
I'll feel your burn!

You've been living like a little girl
in the middle of your little world.
and your mind
your tiny mind
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind
you're falling far too far behind.

Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
You gonna burn ... burn ... burn ...
Fire
I'll take you to burn ...

- Arthur Brown

ha scritto:

the ~8km range of the hellfire and the inherent low stealthiness of
helos on the open sea preclude stand-off attacks against ships above
~400 tons, that is, capable of carrying guns from 57mm up and/or
missiles around the seasparrow size.


{SNIP}

Isn't that what Penguin is for?:

Indeed. If we want to draw a parallel with weapons system of a century
or so ago, the penguin is like the "secondary battery" available to
helos, the main being the harpoon and the tertiary these navalised
hellfire.... I guess everyone can agree that a penguin is an overkill
against pirate skiffs and iranian large RHIB and similiar types of
pousserie Navale.

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

In message ,
dott.Piergiorgio writes
OTOH, this concept can also be an excellent anti-landing system, esp.
in defence of narrow and/or steep coastlines (here in Italy the idea
will be readily adopted and more so on the other side of the
Adriatic )

Sweden and Norway have done exactly that for some time...

--
He thinks too much, such men are dangerous.

Paul J. Adam

On Dec 26, 3:09*am, wrote:
On Dec 25, 5:25*am, "dott.Piergiorgio"

wrote:

{SNIP}

the ~8km range of the hellfire and the inherent low stealthiness of
helos on the open sea preclude stand-off attacks against ships above
~400 tons, that is, capable of carrying guns from 57mm up and/or
missiles around the seasparrow size.

{SNIP}

Dott. Piergiorgio.

Isn't that what Penguin is for?:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/agm-119.htm

True but more Hellfires can be carried than Penguins, depending on the
range and number of the threats, both have their own power alleys...

On Dec 26, 2:02*am, "dott.Piergiorgio"
wrote:


[SNIP]


Indeed. If we want to draw a parallel with weapons system of a century
or so ago, the penguin is like the "secondary battery" available to
helos, the main being the harpoon and the tertiary these navalisedhellfire.... I guess everyone can agree that a penguin is an overkill
against pirate skiffs and iranian large RHIB and similiar types of
pousserie Navale.

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.


Can any helicopters actually launch Harpoon?

wrote in
:

On Dec 26, 2:02*am, "dott.Piergiorgio"
wrote:

[SNIP]

Indeed. If we want to draw a parallel with weapons system of a
century or so ago, the penguin is like the "secondary battery"
available to helos, the main being the harpoon and the tertiary these
navalisedhellfire.... I guess everyone can agree that a penguin is an
overkill
against pirate skiffs and iranian large RHIB and similiar types of
pousserie Navale.

Can any helicopters actually launch Harpoon?

Global Security's page on the AGM-84 suggests not:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ons/agm-84.htm.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
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