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  #11  
Old July 12th 08, 08:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default This is what happens in ther Real world of the paranoid

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Stealth Pilot" wrote in message
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maxwell. your alfoil hat is on backwards.
Stealth Pilot

Which Maxwell, there are at least three.


That's just what he wants you to think.


Bertie

Really? Who's he?




You kow who, don'tcha?


Bertie


Yup, he's Burtie, and everyone knows it.


Do they? How?


Go on. Tell everyone.



Bertie



  #12  
Old July 12th 08, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
FUBAR7
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Default This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety

The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.

FAA Management a.k.a. "The Tombstone Agency" FINALLY
got around to it after TWO near DISASTERS???????

Like I said, a huge air disaster combined with high fuel
prices "could" put a death spike into the airline industry.
The FAILED policies of the FAA combined with FAA incompetent
management has lead us down this road toward disaster for years.

The old saying one straw will break the camels back??

Wait till a mid-air rains about 500 bodies and parts and goo
over some metropolitan area

All you FAA sycophants will be looking for new employment.

Repeat after me.............

"You want fries with that sir"??




Mike wrote:
"FUBAR7" wrote in message
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How many sock puppets do you have?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381129,00.html


Close calls like that happen all the time at all major airports and have
been for many years. They will continue to happen regardless of how
much or little NATCA feeds these stories to the media to serve their own
interests.

And no matter how much YOU try to play on irrational fears, flying on a
commercial airliner is still OVER 20 TIMES SAFER than driving your own
car. I suggest you peddle your nonsense on a non-pilot forum where you
can better take advantage of ignorance. Nobody here is buying.





Mike wrote:
"77777" wrote in message
news A few reminders for FAA Management pukes. While you gorge on sheet
cake and devise ways to screw over your front line safety employees
take a few seconds and look at these links.

This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety.

Of all the links you posted, none had anything to do with the FAA
other than the 20 year old PSA 182 crash in which the crew was given
and accepted a visual clearance.

You should stop licking so many Chinese toys.



Remember, your GS-"Oh-My God" tax waste positions in your cubicle
rat locations don't mean **** in the big picture
of life.

Get ready because it's a coming. Any day now.

The blood will be on YOUR hands

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/planecrash/minu-02.html

http://univers-cite.qc.ca/tucs/crv/psa_f182/

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/w20050905.htm

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/w20070717.htm

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/ms843/photo.shtml

http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/st...ation_1/#34754


  #13  
Old July 12th 08, 04:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
FUBAR7
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More info on the near pink mist at JFK

http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts....2.769281.html
  #14  
Old July 12th 08, 04:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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FUBAR7 wrote:

The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.


Were the involved aircraft following instructions issued by NATCA
controllers?


  #15  
Old July 12th 08, 04:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
FUBAR7
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Default This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.


Were the involved aircraft following instructions issued by NATCA
controllers?



Yes, under duress by forced work procedures mandated by FAA
draconian management
  #16  
Old July 12th 08, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell[_2_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Do they? How?


Go on. Tell everyone.



No need, everyone but you already knows it, dumb ass.


  #17  
Old July 12th 08, 05:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety

FUBAR7 wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.


Were the involved aircraft following instructions issued by NATCA
controllers?



Yes, under duress by forced work procedures mandated by FAA
draconian management


What forced work procedures caused the duress to the controllers involved in
these incidents?


  #18  
Old July 12th 08, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
FUBAR7
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Default This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.

Were the involved aircraft following instructions issued by NATCA
controllers?


Yes, under duress by forced work procedures mandated by FAA
draconian management


What forced work procedures caused the duress to the controllers involved in
these incidents?



EXPANSION OF FAA MANAGEMENT POSITIONS IN CUBICLE RAT
POSITIONS BUT REDUCTION IN KEY SAFETY AND FRONT LINE
CONTROLLER AND TECHNICIAN POSITIONS

Poor training
FAA management overruling controller concerns of unsafe
parallel runway configuration and procedures at JFK
Insufficient staffing during peak traffic periods
Ridiculous dress codes
Salary cuts
No union contract
Poor OJT training at many level 5 towers
Supervisors unable to work traffic or stay current
Diversity promotions USING NON-WHITE MALE people who are
unqualified
And many more too numerous to mention.
  #19  
Old July 12th 08, 06:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default This is what happens in the REAL world of Air Safety

FUBAR7 wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
FUBAR7 wrote:
The world (And FAA Management) will never know

Moving on to real air safety issues and not thread battles
with some FAA sycophant(Mike)note the NAS is rapidly degrading.

Notice the first paragraph of the news article from New York
regarding the 2nd near pink mist at JFK

WASHINGTON --
After another close call, the Federal Aviation
Administration has
finally changed its landing and takeoff procedure at Kennedy
Airport.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/16858119/detail.html

The FAA is "FINALLY" changing their procedure?!?!!? NATCA
has screamed for over 10 years the runway configuration was
****ED UP and a accident waiting to happen at JFK.

Were the involved aircraft following instructions issued by NATCA
controllers?


Yes, under duress by forced work procedures mandated by FAA
draconian management


What forced work procedures caused the duress to the controllers
involved in these incidents?



EXPANSION OF FAA MANAGEMENT POSITIONS IN CUBICLE RAT
POSITIONS BUT REDUCTION IN KEY SAFETY AND FRONT LINE
CONTROLLER AND TECHNICIAN POSITIONS

Poor training
FAA management overruling controller concerns of unsafe
parallel runway configuration and procedures at JFK
Insufficient staffing during peak traffic periods
Ridiculous dress codes
Salary cuts
No union contract
Poor OJT training at many level 5 towers
Supervisors unable to work traffic or stay current
Diversity promotions USING NON-WHITE MALE people who are
unqualified
And many more too numerous to mention.


Why was NATCA unable to stop any of those?



  #20  
Old July 12th 08, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Do they? How?


Go on. Tell everyone.



No need, everyone but you already knows it, dumb ass.




Really?

I'm amazed they haven't mentioned something.




Bertie
 




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