Largest conventional-gear airplane

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gatt wrote:




I wonder what they were like to handle on the ground. The B-17 might
have been easiest of them, I suppose, because of the huge rudder.

-c

That huge fin and rudder also grab a lot of crosswind. G

The B-17 is a pretty nice airplane to fly however. Ailerons heavy as
heck, rudder not so bad, elevator pretty light. I've flown one in
xwinds up to 40 knots (only about 30 degrees cross) and while it makes
you work it doesn't take superman....but like any t/w airplane you gotta
stay ahead of her.

On Jul 10, 7:11*pm, gatt wrote:
B-17?

How about the Maxim Gorky (AKA Tupolev ANT-20). Eight engines, 33M
long (108 Ft), 42,000Kg gross (92,400 Lbs).
Pretty impressive.

Here is a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_ANT-20

Dave

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Dale wrote:

In article ,
gatt wrote:


Good suggestions.
Length
Avro Lincoln: 78 ft 3.5 in.
Lancaster: 69 ft 5 in.
Focke Wulf 200C-3: 77 ft 1 in.
Avor Tudor 1: 79 ft 6 in. (Wiki says the Tudor 2 was 25' longer.)
B-17G: 74 ft 4 in.


I wonder what they were like to handle on the ground. The B-17 might
have been easiest of them, I suppose, because of the huge rudder.

-c

Curtiss C-46: Length 76'4 Wingspan 108'1

Boeing XB-15:

Length: 87 ft 7 in
Span: 149 ft
Height: 19 ft 5 in
Empty Wt: 37709 lb
Gross Wt: 65068 lb
Power: 4 x P&W R-1830-11, 1000 hp @TO; 850 hp @6000 ft
Top Speed: 197 mph @6000 ft
Cruise: 171 mph
Landing: 70 mph

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The 17 would still be heavier, if we stuffed your fat ass in it.

Clearly you have absolutely nothing whatsoever to contribute.

*plonk*

Oh worrra worra, I have been kill filed by a sock puppet.


Soon you'lll slip away. Just like Tinkerbelle.


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on 7/11/2008 1:37 AM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
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on 7/10/2008 7:46 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following:
gatt wrote in
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B-17?


Well, the Avro Lincoln was probably a good bit heavier than the 17,
and also probably the Lancaster, but I think maybe the Focke Wulf
200
was a bit bigger than either. It certainly had more range, though
probably not the payload of even the 17.
The postwar Avor Tudor is the only other giant taildragger I can
think of that might be in competition wiht those. I can't think of
any Russian aircraft that might be in contention, but if anyone
could
have, it would have been them!
Like, say, the Petlyakov Pe-8? AKA the TB-7? It was the only
four-engine bomber the Soviets had during WW II. Its max takeoff
weight was 35,000 kg vs a bit less than 30,000 kg for the B-17. 39
meter wingspan vs 32 meters. A photo:

http://www.aviation.ru/Pe/8/Pe-8.jpg



Hhmm, never even seen that. I've never really looked much at Soviet
airplanes from that era. I must have a rummage around..

Geez, I managed to out-trivia you for once? Shocking...


I'm as surprised as anyone!


Among the Pe-8's features were hand-operated machine guns in the rear
of
the inboard engine nacelles. It also had a single compressor above the
bomb bay, driven by an auxiliary engine, which fed air to the engines
via a huge duct in each wing in place of superchargers. So strictly
speaking it was a five-engine beast!


Hmm, interesting solution to the problem. They had and have some very
clever guys there..


Bertie

Dale wrote in
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In article ,
gatt wrote:


Good suggestions.
Length
Avro Lincoln: 78 ft 3.5 in.
Lancaster: 69 ft 5 in.
Focke Wulf 200C-3: 77 ft 1 in.
Avor Tudor 1: 79 ft 6 in. (Wiki says the Tudor 2 was 25'
longer.) B-17G: 74 ft 4 in.


I wonder what they were like to handle on the ground. The B-17 might
have been easiest of them, I suppose, because of the huge rudder.

-c

Curtiss C-46: Length 76'4 Wingspan 108'1


But lighter over all, I think . I know a few guys who flew them up into the
late '70s. It was not highly thought of.


Bertie

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Soon you'lll slip away. Just like Tinkerbelle.

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