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  #51  
Old February 6th 07, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
Mxsmanic
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Roger writes:

Welll... a simulation is never perfect. If it were it'd be reality.


Correct. Simulation approaches but does not attain this objective.
In practice, simulation can be perfect for a given subset of the
reality to be simulated, but not for all of it. Thus, you can have a
simulator that perfectly simulates some (possibly large) subset of the
reality of flying, but no simulator covers everything. The usual goal
is to create a simulation that covers a subset useful for the purpose
for which the simulation is being used. For example, an
instrument-flight simulator may perfectly simulate the behavior of
instruments, and this may fulfill the purpose of the simulator, even
though other aspects of the reality of flying are not simulated.

In general, many aspects of reality are not worth simulating, and some
are even undesirable in some cases. For example, you would not design
a simulator that kills the pilot in the event of a simulated crash.

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Old February 6th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Tim wrote in :

You're kidding, right?


(simulating a laugh)


Based on his response to you, clearly never been near an airport :-) nor
does he read carefully, wants it all spoon fed to him.....

Maybe one contacts ground after departure in anticipation for that off
airport emergency landing LOL

Allen
  #53  
Old February 6th 07, 04:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Roger writes:


Welll... a simulation is never perfect. If it were it'd be reality.



Correct. Simulation approaches but does not attain this objective.
In practice, simulation can be perfect for a given subset of the
reality to be simulated, but not for all of it. Thus, you can have a
simulator that perfectly simulates some (possibly large) subset of the
reality of flying, but no simulator covers everything. The usual goal
is to create a simulation that covers a subset useful for the purpose
for which the simulation is being used. For example, an
instrument-flight simulator may perfectly simulate the behavior of
instruments, and this may fulfill the purpose of the simulator, even
though other aspects of the reality of flying are not simulated.

In general, many aspects of reality are not worth simulating, and some
are even undesirable in some cases. For example, you would not design
a simulator that kills the pilot in the event of a simulated crash.

Anthony, why would it be undesirable were you to kill yourself in a
simulator crash?

Rip
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Old February 6th 07, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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A Lieberma wrote:
Maybe one contacts ground after departure in anticipation for that off
airport emergency landing LOL


Nope. Contact Mommy to get another pop for playing nice (not cutting in
front of the other 747 in the pattern). LOL. Egal.
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Old February 6th 07, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Rip writes:

Anthony, why would it be undesirable were you to kill yourself in a
simulator crash?


One of the key advantages of simulation is that undesirable aspects of
the real world can be left out. There would be little advantage to
simulation as a training tool if mistakes left the pilot dead.

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Old February 6th 07, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Newps writes:


Doesn't matter to us.



You speak for yourself only.

BAAAAAAP! (Application of 50 joules at delta Tau = 1 msec through
joystick, sticky with erzatz human effluvia).
Incorrect assumption, Anthony!
Error, Error, Error!!!
He speaks also for me.

Rip
  #57  
Old February 6th 07, 05:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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I don't fly to any of the away games. That almost never works.
Weather's too crappy and you need a car anyways at the other end. Not
much of a transition moving up, the kids handle it fine. Where are you
located?




Viperdoc wrote:
Just got back from practice- my son is a squirt, and I'm one of the
assistant coaches. We have play downs this weekend (do these sound
familiar?), but unfortunately I'll be in San Diego for a meeting.

It was actually warmer inside the rink than outside tonight, with the OAT
hovering at -4degrees. With two to three practices and at least one to two
games on the weekends it cuts into the flying time. However, we try to fly
to his games, even if it's only a 15 minute ride. Of course going to the
distant tournaments really becomes more fun- and I usually commute by plane
rather than drive.

Was it a big transition going from squirt to checking? My son isn't very
big, so I'm concerned about him getting crushed.


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Old February 6th 07, 05:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Rip writes:

He speaks also for me.


If that were true, you wouldn't be saying this.

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Old February 6th 07, 07:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Rip writes:

He speaks also for me.


If that were true, you wouldn't be saying this.


Score 1 for Mxsmanic (it got a chuckle out of me, anyway).
  #60  
Old February 6th 07, 01:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.ifr
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My son plays in WAHA (I think it stands for Wisconsin amateur hockey
association) as a second year squirt in the Elm Brook program. I am the
level director and one of the assistant coaches for his team.

Flying to tournaments works for us, since my wife generally drives, and I
fly up for the games. I have a lot of other responsibilities related to work
and the Air Force, so this gives me more time to get other stuff done on the
weekends, as well as an opportunity to fly. Who could ask for more?

Last night we were trying to teach the defense to cut off the player coming
out of the offensive zone without drawing an interference penalty- it's
tough to make a play on the puck and cut the player off as well and make it
look like they were just playing the puck.

I tried to get the kids to turn toward the player coming out of the zone,
and not the puck. Do you have any input on this move from the ref's
perspective?
"Newps" wrote in message
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I don't fly to any of the away games. That almost never works. Weather's
too crappy and you need a car anyways at the other end. Not much of a
transition moving up, the kids handle it fine. Where are you located?




Viperdoc wrote:
Just got back from practice- my son is a squirt, and I'm one of the
assistant coaches. We have play downs this weekend (do these sound
familiar?), but unfortunately I'll be in San Diego for a meeting.

It was actually warmer inside the rink than outside tonight, with the OAT
hovering at -4degrees. With two to three practices and at least one to
two games on the weekends it cuts into the flying time. However, we try
to fly to his games, even if it's only a 15 minute ride. Of course going
to the distant tournaments really becomes more fun- and I usually commute
by plane rather than drive.

Was it a big transition going from squirt to checking? My son isn't very
big, so I'm concerned about him getting crushed.



 




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