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Old September 10th 07, 10:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan G
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http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

These are 0.4 m resolution pictures taken by satellite (GeoEye) since
Fossett went missing. You're shown a picture and either you say "no,
nothing of interest" or "yes, this should be checked out". There's
over 100,000 images to sift through, so if you can help, please do!

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Old September 10th 07, 12:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sep 10, 5:55 am, Dan G wrote:
http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

These are 0.4 m resolution pictures taken by satellite (GeoEye) since
Fossett went missing. You're shown a picture and either you say "no,
nothing of interest" or "yes, this should be checked out". There's
over 100,000 images to sift through, so if you can help, please do!


Dan - What is the paint job on the missing Citabria ?
Startburst ? Stripes ? Didn't see this info, perhaps it would help...
Best Regards, Dave "YO"

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Old September 10th 07, 01:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan G
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On Sep 10, 12:19 pm, wrote:
Dan - What is the paint job on the missing Citabria ?
Startburst ? Stripes ? Didn't see this info, perhaps it would help...
Best Regards, Dave "YO"


I honestly don't know, although I imagine it will be a light colour,
similar to the example.

However don't forget that if you flag anything as interesting the
image is only sent on to the search team for a closer look. If they
agree, then they may send someone to check it out. So risk of causing
a troublesome "false positive" is low.

I noticed that the images are hosted by Google. So we've got GeoEye,
Google and Amazon all working together to make this possible. All
that's now needed is people to look at the images!


Dan

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Old September 10th 07, 01:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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wrote:
On Sep 10, 5:55 am, Dan G wrote:
http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

These are 0.4 m resolution pictures taken by satellite (GeoEye) since
Fossett went missing. You're shown a picture and either you say "no,
nothing of interest" or "yes, this should be checked out". There's
over 100,000 images to sift through, so if you can help, please do!


Dan - What is the paint job on the missing Citabria ?
Startburst ? Stripes ? Didn't see this info, perhaps it would help....




----------

Background

On Monday, September 3, 2007, Steve Fossett, the first person to fly a
plane around the world without refueling and the first person to fly
around the world in a balloon went missing in Nevada. An airplane he was
flying failed to return. No one has any idea where he is.

Through the generous efforts of individuals at several organizations,
detailed satellite imagery has been made available for his last known
whereabouts.


Instructions

You will be shown a single satellite image. The task is to flag any
satellite images which contain foreign objects that may resemble Steve's
airplane or parts of a plane. Steve's plane will show up as a regular
object with sharp edges, white or nearly white, about 21 pixels long and
30 pixels in wingspan.

Notes

If in doubt, be conservative and mark the image. For complete coverage,
we've set up this HIT such that multiple people will cover the same area
several times over. Please do your best, but do not worry that missing
one little detail will be tragic. It will get caught.

Marked images will be sent to a team of specialists who will determine
if they contain information on the whereabouts of Steve Fossett.

Friends and family of Steve Fossett would like to thank you for helping
them with this cause.

http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

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Old September 10th 07, 02:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony Verhulst
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Dan G wrote:
http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

These are 0.4 m resolution pictures taken by satellite (GeoEye) since
Fossett went missing. You're shown a picture and either you say "no,
nothing of interest" or "yes, this should be checked out". There's
over 100,000 images to sift through, so if you can help, please do!



Gee, I wonder why we haven't seen stuff like this when others went missing?

Tony
(yes, I am going through the images)
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Old September 10th 07, 02:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Gee, I wonder why we haven't seen stuff like this when others went missing?


The idea came from this search-and-rescue mission
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/...?currentPage=1



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Old September 10th 07, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Michael Ash
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Tony Verhulst wrote:
Dan G wrote:
http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

These are 0.4 m resolution pictures taken by satellite (GeoEye) since
Fossett went missing. You're shown a picture and either you say "no,
nothing of interest" or "yes, this should be checked out". There's
over 100,000 images to sift through, so if you can help, please do!


Gee, I wonder why we haven't seen stuff like this when others went missing?


Obviously these companies don't get nearly as much free publicity if they
did it for Bob Unknown.

However, now that it's been done, I imagine it might become more common.
The major cost is actually getting the satellite pictures, so if it's
possible to get them while the satellite is otherwise idle and without
burning its fuel then the total cost of such an operation might become low
enough that it could be used routinely even for us little people.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software
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Old September 10th 07, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan G
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On Sep 10, 3:19 pm, Michael Ash wrote:
However, now that it's been done, I imagine it might become more common.
The major cost is actually getting the satellite pictures, so if it's
possible to get them while the satellite is otherwise idle and without
burning its fuel then the total cost of such an operation might become low
enough that it could be used routinely even for us little people.


TBH I don't know how effective this method of "searching" will prove.
As is linked to above, the prototype of this method was the search for
a Microsoft employee who sailed out of San Francisco and was never
seen again (I worked on that one too). Although a number of yachts of
the right size were sighted in the images, they proved not to be the
Tenacious and Gray was never found. (Gray and the Tenacious are still
out there, somewhere, probably on the seabed by now). You can read the
blog that was used to co-ordinate the satellite search:

http://www.openphi.net/tenacious/

The Fossett search is only the second attempt to use the technique and
is looking for a very different target on a very different surface, so
who knows if it will prove worthwhile. While the aircraft is easily
big enough to be visible to the satellite, indeed an airborne search
plane has already been spotted, it's not a guaranteed success. Maybe
the Citabria burned up on impact, or is obscured from the vertical
somehow. Maybe it's not there at all.

What is true, without doubt, is that a full conventional SAR operation
is launched for *anyone* who goes missing in an aircraft or boat,
whether rich or poor, or famous or not, and that's still a person's
best hope for timely rescue.


Dan

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Old September 10th 07, 04:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill Daniels
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"Dan G" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://www.mturk.com/mturk/preview?g...21T60&kw=Flash

These are 0.4 m resolution pictures taken by satellite (GeoEye) since
Fossett went missing. You're shown a picture and either you say "no,
nothing of interest" or "yes, this should be checked out". There's
over 100,000 images to sift through, so if you can help, please do!


Probably my ineptness, but the flash application doesn't work. I get a
Google Earth view of the Lat, Long starting point on Google Earth but no
opportunity to designate an image as interesting. I also don't get a
predictable way to shift to the next image.

I've tried with both IE and Firefox.

Bill Daniels


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Old September 10th 07, 04:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill Daniels
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Never mind, it's now working - not sure what I did no make it so.

Bill Daniels

"Dan G" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 10, 3:19 pm, Michael Ash wrote:
However, now that it's been done, I imagine it might become more common.
The major cost is actually getting the satellite pictures, so if it's
possible to get them while the satellite is otherwise idle and without
burning its fuel then the total cost of such an operation might become
low
enough that it could be used routinely even for us little people.


TBH I don't know how effective this method of "searching" will prove.
As is linked to above, the prototype of this method was the search for
a Microsoft employee who sailed out of San Francisco and was never
seen again (I worked on that one too). Although a number of yachts of
the right size were sighted in the images, they proved not to be the
Tenacious and Gray was never found. (Gray and the Tenacious are still
out there, somewhere, probably on the seabed by now). You can read the
blog that was used to co-ordinate the satellite search:

http://www.openphi.net/tenacious/

The Fossett search is only the second attempt to use the technique and
is looking for a very different target on a very different surface, so
who knows if it will prove worthwhile. While the aircraft is easily
big enough to be visible to the satellite, indeed an airborne search
plane has already been spotted, it's not a guaranteed success. Maybe
the Citabria burned up on impact, or is obscured from the vertical
somehow. Maybe it's not there at all.

What is true, without doubt, is that a full conventional SAR operation
is launched for *anyone* who goes missing in an aircraft or boat,
whether rich or poor, or famous or not, and that's still a person's
best hope for timely rescue.


Dan



 




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