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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
And Who Went looking for Lori Love????? The African countries looked for
about 1/2 a day! Miami - The first few hours of silence after Lori Love's plane disappeared off west Africa were not too worrisome. The "lone wolf," as she liked to call herself, did not like mid-air chatter. She had asked for this solo flight through long stretches of sky not covered by radar. She exchanged a cheerful, routine radio transmission with another pilot about an hour after taking off from Accra, Ghana, last Friday night, said Steve Hall. A longtime friend, he had hired her to ferry a single-engine Beechcraft from Florida to South Africa. That was the last time anyone heard from Love. Ghana air traffic controllers failed to establish contact with her about 15 minutes later. Her expected arrival in Windhoek, Namibia, late Saturday morning passed without her wheels touching down. Most troubling: The ace pilot and skydiver never activated a handheld emergency beacon that would have tipped rescuers to her location by GPS, Hall said. Search efforts from several African countries have stopped tracing her expected flight path, failing for almost a week to find any sign of her plane or her emergency raft, Hall said. Love would not have taken off from the Ghanian capital if she had not been confident her plane was fine, Hall said. A minor electrical problem in the plane's alternator switch had been fixed during a brief layover in Accra, and she had 18 hours of fuel to bridge the nearly 2,300 miles south to Namibia. "Something catastrophic must have happened," he said. It is not known whether the electrical glitch resurfaced or if it was part of some fatal problem. "I'm just praying she will reappear and give me hell and say, 'You gave me a lousy airplane,"' he said. Expert in the air If it flew, Love knew how to keep it in the air. The 57-year-old Wichita, Kan., woman was certified to teach flying and skydiving, rig parachutes and fly helicopters, gliders, single- and multi-engine planes that could touch down on either land or sea, according to Federal Aviation Administration records. Never staying in one place too long, she logged 15,000 hours as a pilot and completed 4,000 parachute jumps before a bad back made her give up skydiving in 1999, her colleagues said. Love also ran her own airport in Alabama for five years before feeling the itch to move again. She kept her late 1970s Dodge Maxivan rolling, too - 555,000 miles and counting, Hall said, tuned with a set of tools at least as old as the vehicle. "Everything I own is inside it," Love told a National Air and Space Museum photographer for a 1997 book about women pilots. "I honestly thought by now I would be tired of that lifestyle and be ready to settle down, but it hasn't happened." She had a couple scrapes: a brief marriage after college; a tangle with power lines that dumped her crop duster upside-down in a cotton field. Nothing she could not walk away from. Love was not a daredevil child, but it was hard to keep her on the ground once she picked up skydiving at Kansas University, said her father, Loren Fred. She once parachuted off a utility pole in Oklahoma, he recalled. She also dropped tools from her helicopter to lumberjacks in Alaska and defied a chauvinist crop duster in Arizona. "He wasn't going to hire a woman pilot, but he consented to put her in a plane and in the most difficult positions and see if she couldn't get out of them," Fred said. "She did, and she got the job." Love recalled in the book "Women and Flight" that she could not remember how she figured out girls could fly; her family did not have a television, but they would drive by the Wichita International Airport to see the taxiways lit up at night. She later learned that flying eased the strain of scoliosis on her back, her father told The Associated Press. "That was a relief, really," he said. After years of moving around the country, Love settled for a time in Gainesville to pursue a doctorate in special education at the University of Florida. Three years ago, she gave up her studies and returned home to Wichita to care for Fred, 95, when his health began to fail. Love had just started ferrying planes again, commuting from Kansas to Tampa whenever Hall had work for her. She wanted to make enough money so she could take time off this winter to finally finish her dissertation, her father said. On her last job, she had hopscotched from Tampa to Maine, the Azores, the Canary Islands and then Ghana over eight days. She wanted to make it to Capetown, South Africa, in just one more jump after Ghana, but Hall persuaded her to add the brief rest in Namibia. Heading there, she disappeared. "Gig 601Xl Builder" wrote in message m... http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90982 CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Gov. Jim Gibbons intends to bill the widow of missing multimillionaire adventurer Steve Fossett for $687,000 the state spent in searching for the famed aviator last fall, a spokesman said. Gibbons spokesman Ben Kieckhefer told the Las Vegas Review-Journal it was his understanding that the governor will bill Peggy Fossett for costs of the unsuccessful search. Fossett, 63, took off Sept. 3 from Barron Hilton's Flying M Ranch, south of Yerington, in a small plane on what was supposed to be a short pleasure flight. During a monthlong search, ground crews, the Nevada National Guard and the Civil Air Patrol scoured a 20,000 square-mile area, but turned up no sign of Fossett or his plane. Hilton, the hotel magnate, later voluntarily sent the state a check $200,000 to cover some of the search costs. Fossett was declared legally dead Feb. 15 by an Illinois judge. In making that determination, Cook County Circuit Court Judge Jeffery Malak said Fossett left a "vast," eight-figure estate. Billing someone for the costs of a search is unusual. On Tuesday, before Kieckhefer revealed the governor's plans, state Emergency Management Director Frank Siracusa said state and local government search and rescue workers have a long-standing tradition of not charging when they hunt for missing persons, even for multimillionaires such as Steve Fossett. "We do not charge the rich or the poor," Siracusa said. "There is no precedent where government will go after people for costs just because they have money to pay for it. You get lost, and we look for you. It is a service your taxpayer dollars pay for." But Siracusa added that the final decision on whether Peggy Fossett would be billed rested with the governor, who since January has cut state spending to deal with a budget shortfall projected to top $900 million by mid-2009. The Fossetts lived part time in Beaver Creek. |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
NW_Pilot writes:
And Who Went looking for Lori Love????? The African countries looked for about 1/2 a day! Was she a celebrity, a millionaire, a politician, or a cute girl? Nope. |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"NW_Pilot" wrote in
: And Who Went looking for Lori Love????? The African countries looked for about 1/2 a day! Why, cause she was white? Any idea of how many of their own die every day directly or indirectly through poverty? Spending tens of thousands on a search that had almost no chance of success wouldn't have been very clever.. Bertie |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"NW_Pilot" wrote ... And Who Went looking for Lori Love????? The African countries looked for about 1/2 a day! Sad story to hear. I hope she turns up, somehow. She sounds like quite a character! Do you have one of the Spot messenger/trackers? http://www.findmespot.com/AboutUs.aspx It sounds like something that a ferry pilot should not be without. The function of being able to tell where the latest fix sent 10 minutes previous to being forced down (even if you were disabled and unable to send a message, or your ELT did not go off) would give searchers a place to start looking. As far as that goes, it looks like something every pilot should consider owning and using. I wonder why it says it will not work in much of Africa? It might not have not done any good, in this case. -- Jim in NC |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
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... On May 2, 9:00 am, "Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote: Gig 601Xl Builder wrote: http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=90982 CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Gov. Jim Gibbons intends to bill the widow of missing multimillionaire adventurer Steve Fossett for $687,000 the state spent in searching for the famed aviator last fall, a spokesman said. Jeez. Ain't it enough she lost her husband? Worse than that, she'll probably never know how,when or why without closure. In my experience that sets folks up for some special kinda suffering. Sure Fossett was wealthy but is my wife gonna get a bill for SAR if I bail in the hills? Joe Bob don't like it...nope not one little bit. -- Message posted via AviationKB.comhttp://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/aviation/200805/1 I"m a CAP member, and I look forward to volunteering for the searches, although I lament the need. If I thought the state was going to bill someone, I'd rethink my volunteer status. I wonder if the feds billed the Kennedy family for the use of a destroyer for a funeral....? IMHO, the real point here is that officials of the the state of Nevada made a bad decision in the specific case, and now the governor wants to single out a specific citizen to pay for it. The economic status of anyone involved can not justify such a thing, it is simply wrong and requires correction--for which we hold elections from time to time. |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"Morgans" wrote:
Do you have one of the Spot messenger/trackers? http://www.findmespot.com/AboutUs.aspx It sounds like something that a ferry pilot should not be without. The function of being able to tell where the latest fix sent 10 minutes previous to being forced down (even if you were disabled and unable to send a message, or your ELT did not go off) would give searchers a place to start looking. As far as that goes, it looks like something every pilot should consider owning and using. I wonder why it says it will not work in much of Africa? It might not have not done any good, in this case. -- Jim in NC Get a 406 MHz PLB with integrated GPS. Should work worldwide. One example: http://tinyurl.com/66j6gr Ron Lee |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"Ron Lee" wrote Get a 406 MHz PLB with integrated GPS. Should work worldwide. The only problem I see with that, is if you crash or have a midair (or something else totally unexpected) and it fails to go off, or gets destroyed, or the antenna gets ripped off (or one of the other dozen things that keep it from going off) nobody is going to have any idea where to start looking. If you have the spot finder, and have someone that can access the tracking function, SAR will have a place to start looking, even if it (or you) are unable to transmit with an ELT or the spot finder. Add to that all of the things that the spot can do with it's messaging functions, and you have a unit that can do lots of things that an ELT can never do. It seems like the spot finder can be a good supplement for communications while traveling, when a cell phone can't work. All I'm saying is that for some people, this seems like a remarkable gizzmo. YMMV. Unless, of course, you happen to be in South Africa. g -- Jim in NC |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "NW_Pilot" wrote in : And Who Went looking for Lori Love????? The African countries looked for about 1/2 a day! Why, cause she was white? Any idea of how many of their own die every day directly or indirectly through poverty? Spending tens of thousands on a search that had almost no chance of success wouldn't have been very clever.. Bertie No it's because she was not one of the beutiful people (Wealthy)! I have meet 3 people that have been recoverd from the drink..... our govermrnt has bases over there that could have assisted in a search. When Fossett could have paid for his own search. At least she had locator beacons and survival equipment with her. |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"Morgans" wrote:
"Ron Lee" wrote Get a 406 MHz PLB with integrated GPS. Should work worldwide. The only problem I see with that, is if you crash or have a midair (or something else totally unexpected) and it fails to go off, or gets destroyed, or the antenna gets ripped off (or one of the other dozen things that keep it from going off) nobody is going to have any idea where to start looking. All valid points. My PLB will be activated in air if possible if the engine quits. I use flight following. An APRS provides the track functionality of Spot and no cost once you get the equipment. http://tinyurl.com/624vv6 Any of these solutions are likely far better than your standard 121.5 MHz ELT Ron Lee |
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Nevada governor to bill Fossett widow for search expenses
"NW_Pilot" wrote in
: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . "NW_Pilot" wrote in : And Who Went looking for Lori Love????? The African countries looked for about 1/2 a day! Why, cause she was white? Any idea of how many of their own die every day directly or indirectly through poverty? Spending tens of thousands on a search that had almost no chance of success wouldn't have been very clever.. Bertie No it's because she was not one of the beutiful people (Wealthy)! You misunderstand me. Why should they look for her? They have problems of their own. Bertie |
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