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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: Apparently you have never heard of shelving or floors. I have, but that's irrelevant here. The chart is clearly marked, e.g., 9999' MSL ========= SURFACE Surface means the ground. You can't go below an airspace that starts on the ground. All of that information is available on the Las Vegas Sectional, which you would have realized if you looked at it, since it's publically available. I'm looking at the Grand Canyon chart, which is also publically available, and is much more relevant to the Grand Canyon SFRA than any other chart. True; while this may be irrelevant to the Grand Canyon chart, it goes back to the previous statement; the Grand Canyon Chart is 6 years out of date, according to the FAA; last update for that was April 19th, 2001. I understand that 'because a new chart hasn't been issued still makes the old one current'; but it also does mean that any changes to airports in the A/FD (closure, changes to the diagram, layout of the airport, etc.) would supercede the chart you have, making it old and out of date. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaQHJyBkZmuMZ8L8RAnbAAKCjoaz7/4xcZt512aVr3UKlllDfSACfa4pK BSL6SP8EcTNi3nBPv7XpFaA= =XHPA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
Mxsmanic,
So nobody matters here? Some do, some don't. Per your own definition, none do. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: Wow. You just proved your extreme, self-centered nature. It's rather the other way around. You apparently feel that anyone who doesn't value your beliefs is extremely self-centered, which is the sort of thing that only an extremely self-centered person would believe. Oh brother. Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: flynrider via AviationKB.com writes: Oh really? That would be news to the folks that make the charts. I think not. The charts are marked in the standard way to indicate the vertical boundaries of the SFRA. All sectors start at the surface, although the ceilings vary. no they don;t fjukkwit Bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: Apparently you have never heard of shelving or floors. I have, but that's irrelevant here. The chart is clearly marked, e.g., 9999' MSL ========= SURFACE Surface means the ground. You can't go below an airspace that starts on the ground. All of that information is available on the Las Vegas Sectional, which you would have realized if you looked at it, since it's publically available. I'm looking at the Grand Canyon chart, which is also publically available, and is much more relevant to the Grand Canyon SFRA than any other chart. Matters nada. You don't fly and never will fjukkkktard Bertie |
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: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: So enlighten us, Anthony.. exactly how long have you been posting on USENET to label yourself as a 'veteran'? I'd love to know this. Google is your friend, although that will not show my earliest activity. Nope, it's your friend. your only friend. bertie |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: george writes: Not in here and not from any of the current posters and pilots.. The active posters here who matter also show at least a modicum of respect, since both civility and competence have a common root in intelligence. The others don't matter, and so their respect or lack thereof is unimportant. Bwawhahwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwhah wh! Bertie |
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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
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: Thomas Borchert writes: So nobody matters here? Some do, some don't. You don't Bertie |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
True; while this may be irrelevant to the Grand Canyon chart, it goes back to the previous statement; the Grand Canyon Chart is 6 years out of date, according to the FAA; last update for that was April 19th, 2001. I understand that 'because a new chart hasn't been issued still makes the old one current'; but it also does mean that any changes to airports in the A/FD (closure, changes to the diagram, layout of the airport, etc.) would supercede the chart you have, making it old and out of date. The most recent sectional also shows the airports. |
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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: True; while this may be irrelevant to the Grand Canyon chart, it goes back to the previous statement; the Grand Canyon Chart is 6 years out of date, according to the FAA; last update for that was April 19th, 2001. I understand that 'because a new chart hasn't been issued still makes the old one current'; but it also does mean that any changes to airports in the A/FD (closure, changes to the diagram, layout of the airport, etc.) would supercede the chart you have, making it old and out of date. The most recent sectional also shows the airports. Back to the same issue again; If the A/FD shows that the airport is closed (and keep in mind the A/FD is updated every 56 days), your 3 month old 'recent sectional' is out of date and needs to be updated. Once again, A/FD changes would supercede the chart you have. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaZchyBkZmuMZ8L8RAnKbAJ4kXxvZt4GYaxPIQnxVVu Ja7Aq3tgCeJoCI ll59cg18kgHwcMyjXKwFLVo= =3Nds -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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