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Why GA is Dying
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:29:48 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote: If you have to shoot someone with justification, call the police as soon as you can, request an ambulance, tell the 911 operator the basic facts. Don't alter any part of the crime scene or nothing you say will be believed. Don't move the body, except as needed to provide first aid. Don't decide that you need more "justification" and drop a knife or gun if you don't see one after the shooting. Try to keep his buddies away, they will take his gun or knife and hide it. If you have a camera phone, take pictures while you're calling. Don't say too much... have your lawyers 24/7 contact number. She lives in Texas... All she needs is a pickup and a chain... Personally, I believe that one should be ecological... If you kill it, you should try to dispose of it if at all possible... Personally, I have a fondness for larger reptiles... Gators gotta eat too, ya' know... |
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POL Why GA is Dying
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:35:16 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote: I guess I'd be OK with this as long as only those who vote had to pay taxes. After all, if I have no say in the country's governance, then I shouldn't have to pay for it either. Best I remember, we didn't have an income tax back then... Probably just a property tax... |
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POL Why GA is Dying
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:47:20 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote: Yes, but it isn't yours as your family stole it from the native Americans. Perhaps... Perhaps they stole it from the Neanderthals or whomever was around before them... Or perhaps they just stole it from other native Americans... Don't try judging our ancestors by the standards of today... |
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POL Why GA is Dying
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:14:22 -0500, Emily
wrote: And although I think I'm too old for the draft now, if they started drafting women, I'd be in OCS so fast my current employer wouldn't know what hit them. THAT'S how I really feel about mandatory military service. You would probably not have a problem being an office... Hell, you already got the first prerequisite -- you have to squat to ****... |
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OT rifle caliber (was Why GA is Dying)
Jose wrote:
.30/06 is the rifle caliber. Nope. .30-'06 Yep, caliber and year, not a fraction. Ok, what do the numbers mean? I've heard of a "thirty ought six" referring to a gun, and think I know one of them (.30 inches?) refers to the gauge (width of the bullet). What's the other? Short-hand for 1906, the year it was adopted. http://www.gmdr.com/lever/3006stext.htm |
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POL Why GA is Dying
Grumman-581 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:14:22 -0500, Emily wrote: And although I think I'm too old for the draft now, if they started drafting women, I'd be in OCS so fast my current employer wouldn't know what hit them. THAT'S how I really feel about mandatory military service. You would probably not have a problem being an office... Hell, you already got the first prerequisite -- you have to squat to ****... No, I wouldn't have a problem being an officer....if it came down to being an officer or enlisting. But, since I was accepted to OCS a few years ago and decided not to go, I think my decision on that is made. And cool it with the officer jokes! |
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Why GA is Dying
Jim Macklin wrote:
A 32 Seacamp with the recommended ammo is more effective than the standard 38 Special 158 grain RN. It is reliable, lethal on a headshot, lethal on a heart shot, and it is available when nothing else might be. I think it is Seecamp, but comparing one inadequate cartridge to another doesn't really make a meaningful point. A .22 is lethal with perfect bullet placement, no heavy clothing, etc., but it certainly wouldn't be on my list for self-defense against anything larger than a cat. My choice is a Colt Officer's ACP .45 ACP with 200 grain +P HP, carried behind the hip in a holster of my own design. But since most people do not have unlimited funds, people carry what they have. Any gun, in any caliber is better than a big gun locked away at home. Yes, that is my preferred sidearm also, although mine isn't the officer's model. There are several small .45s on the market, http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/ultracarry/ are not much bigger than the Seacamp. Dirty Harry not withstanding, really big handguns are not first choice for self-defense, except where there are large bears, lions or other 1,000 pound monsters. Ruger makes the 480 and 454 Alaskan and S&W has the snubby versions of the .500, but these are just too big and powerful for anti-personnel use. Too much power delays repeat shots and if there are two or more attackers you need repeat shots. Yes, don't need something quite that big, but I like at least a .45 ACP as that is well proven. Personally, I like a .41 or .44 magnum, but it is hard to find them in autoloaders and the 10mm isn't that popular either. I can get repeat shots with my .45 nearly as fast as with my Ruger .22/44. I've never had a problem with recoil as my dad had me shooting .357 single actions at age 8 and .44 mags by age 10. However, I wouldn't recommend them to everyone. A 9mm is controllable by almost anyone and has a lot more stopping power than a .32 or .38. I consider a 9mm to be marginal and I laugh at this whole "fire power" argument. Personally, I'd rather have 6 or 8 rounds that count, than 15 peas to lob. The 40 S&W and 45 ACP are about ideal, the 9 mm [9x19 Luger/Parabellum/NATO] is a good minimum unless some other factor, such as physical weakness in the hands, or just no way to carry or control something bigger. But remember the point is to protect yourself, a gun may scare the attacker into flight without a shot being fired. A shot fired that hits the right place is better than a miss with a 44 Magnum. The .22 LT HP is pretty effective at killing but it is not a stopper. The bigger bullet has a better chance of stopping the attacker and may not be as lethal as some smaller calibers. But ideally, an attacker will never attack because they will be worried that you may be armed. If they do attack, the sight of your gun may scare them away [this is very common]. If you have to shoot, you want to make them stop their attack, you want to stun them into complete inaction instantaneously. Bottom-line, you want to go home. I generally agree with you here. Matt |
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Why GA is Dying
Jim Macklin wrote:
Mas A yob, nice guy as long as he's on your side. I've never met him. I've read a few articles he's written in the gun mags, but he doesn't write for the two (American Rifleman and Shooting Times) which I get by subscription. I occasionally pick up one of those he writes for on the newstand when traveling. Matt |
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POL Why GA is Dying
Jim Macklin wrote:
The King of Spain gave a few people most of southern Texas. "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... | In article , Matt Whiting | wrote: | | Yes, but it isn't yours as your family stole it from the native Americans. | | who stole it from other native americans, who stole it from .... | | -- | Bob Noel | Looking for a sig the | lawyers will hate | It wasn't his to give. Matt |
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Why GA is Dying
Speed without accuracy, power without accuracy, too much
power may kill your neighbor... If you want to see speed, have you seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6rEnEQkYaQ&search=bond "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... | Jim Macklin wrote: | | A 32 Seacamp with the recommended ammo is more effective | than the standard 38 Special 158 grain RN. It is reliable, | lethal on a headshot, lethal on a heart shot, and it is | available when nothing else might be. | | I think it is Seecamp, but comparing one inadequate cartridge to another | doesn't really make a meaningful point. A .22 is lethal with perfect | bullet placement, no heavy clothing, etc., but it certainly wouldn't be | on my list for self-defense against anything larger than a cat. | | | My choice is a Colt Officer's ACP .45 ACP with 200 grain +P | HP, carried behind the hip in a holster of my own design. | But since most people do not have unlimited funds, people | carry what they have. Any gun, in any caliber is better | than a big gun locked away at home. | | Yes, that is my preferred sidearm also, although mine isn't the | officer's model. | | | There are several small .45s on the market, | http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/ultracarry/ are not | much bigger than the Seacamp. Dirty Harry not withstanding, | really big handguns are not first choice for self-defense, | except where there are large bears, lions or other 1,000 | pound monsters. Ruger makes the 480 and 454 Alaskan and S&W | has the snubby versions of the .500, but these are just too | big and powerful for anti-personnel use. Too much power | delays repeat shots and if there are two or more attackers | you need repeat shots. | | Yes, don't need something quite that big, but I like at least a .45 ACP | as that is well proven. Personally, I like a .41 or .44 magnum, but it | is hard to find them in autoloaders and the 10mm isn't that popular | either. I can get repeat shots with my .45 nearly as fast as with my | Ruger .22/44. I've never had a problem with recoil as my dad had me | shooting .357 single actions at age 8 and .44 mags by age 10. However, | I wouldn't recommend them to everyone. A 9mm is controllable by almost | anyone and has a lot more stopping power than a .32 or ..38. I consider | a 9mm to be marginal and I laugh at this whole "fire power" argument. | Personally, I'd rather have 6 or 8 rounds that count, than 15 peas to lob. | | | The 40 S&W and 45 ACP are about ideal, the 9 mm [9x19 | Luger/Parabellum/NATO] is a good minimum unless some other | factor, such as physical weakness in the hands, or just no | way to carry or control something bigger. But remember the | point is to protect yourself, a gun may scare the attacker | into flight without a shot being fired. A shot fired that | hits the right place is better than a miss with a 44 Magnum. | The .22 LT HP is pretty effective at killing but it is not a | stopper. The bigger bullet has a better chance of stopping | the attacker and may not be as lethal as some smaller | calibers. But ideally, an attacker will never attack | because they will be worried that you may be armed. If they | do attack, the sight of your gun may scare them away [this | is very common]. If you have to shoot, you want to make | them stop their attack, you want to stun them into complete | inaction instantaneously. Bottom-line, you want to go home. | | I generally agree with you here. | | | Matt |
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