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Old February 24th 08, 04:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Fry
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"HL" == Longworth writes:
HL For
HL us, the biggest flying expenses have always been maintenance
HL and upkeep.

A big reason why I'm embarking on building an RV-9A. Brand-new
airplane and I'll own the repairman's certificate.

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Old February 24th 08, 05:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Fry wrote:
"HL" == Longworth writes:

HL For
HL us, the biggest flying expenses have always been maintenance
HL and upkeep.

A big reason why I'm embarking on building an RV-9A. Brand-new
airplane and I'll own the repairman's certificate.


And for cheaper flying you can throttle back and get good miles per dollar
(well you can do that in any plane, but the RV series are pretty efficient
airframes).

I bought the RV-9A plans set but just haven't been able to commit to it.
(Still a bathroom and kitchen remodel to do first anyway!) The only other
low-wing homebuilt that I keep considering is the Arion Lightning.

And now today I heard Randy Schlitter say the Rans S-19 was designed for a
1475 lb gross. So if one didn't need to stay within the 1320 lb LSA limits,
its heavier than expected weight of 820 lbs need not be held against it. Of
course it still couldn't keep up with the RV-9A or Lightning, so it would
be an inferior cross country plane to those two on a speed basis.

But yeah, I think the future of GA is in smaller planes and of course
homebuilts.
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Old February 24th 08, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Feb 24, 12:22*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Hung writes:
I bet even MX splurches on hit sim equipment such as a
compfortable chair, memories, high end graphics card, sound system,
high end monitors and joysticks...etc.


That is impossible without money.


Try getting off your butt and do some work!

Cheers
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Old February 24th 08, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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William Hung writes:

Got to have the best to sim reallity.


Not really. All types of simulation simulate reality, with varying degrees of
success. Part of the simulation is the simulator, part of the simulation is a
willingness to use one's imagination and suspend disbelief to enhance realism.
Pilots don't profit very much from simulator training if they continually say
to themselves that it's not real.

Anyways, you're a smart fella, surely you have found ways to make money
on the side.


It's a difficult task where I live, as there are many barriers to
entrepreneurs, and I'm not much of a salesman, as you might well imagine.
Additionally, I insist on doing everything legally, which hugely diminishes
the amount of money one can make with a given activity in a given amount of
time, even if things go well.

You must have splurged once or twice, how else can you enjoy simming?


I've spent hardly anything on flight simulation over the years. One nice
thing about flight simulation is that it costs almost nothing compared to most
hobbies, and I can fly for thousands of hours and it's nearly free. The money
I've spent on flight simulation wouldn't even pay for one hour in a small
aircraft in the real world, and I've been into flight simulation since it was
a jumble of white lines on a screen.

You must have found ways of making money to supplement your English teaching
income.


None that aren't very random and seasonal.
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Old February 24th 08, 05:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Owner writes:

About $235k stock and over $250k if you add a/c


What types of instruments and avionics are included in the stock airplane?
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Old February 24th 08, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jay Maynard writes:

With all that said, a fuel-efficient aircraft engine is a Good Idea, not
because of global warming (boy, have we had to shovel a lot of that out of
our driveway this winter!), but simply because it's less expensive to
operate. In aviation, that's always desirable. It's one reason I'm even
looking at a Rotax-powered aircraft, despite my lingering misgivings about
having an engine my local mechanic can't fix.


So why are the vast majority of small aircraft powered by engines that were
designed during the Second World War at the latest?
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Old February 24th 08, 07:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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On Feb 24, 4:37*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
William Hung writes:
Got to have the best to sim reallity.


Not really. *All types of simulation simulate reality, with varying degrees of
success. *Part of the simulation is the simulator, part of the simulation is a
willingness to use one's imagination and suspend disbelief to enhance realism.
Pilots don't profit very much from simulator training if they continually say
to themselves that it's not real.

Anyways, you're a smart fella, surely you have found ways to make money
on the side.


It's a difficult task where I live, as there are many barriers to
entrepreneurs, and I'm not much of a salesman, as you might well imagine.
Additionally, I insist on doing everything legally, which hugely diminishes
the amount of money one can make with a given activity in a given amount of
time, even if things go well.


If you lived in Bombay, I might nearly be able to empathise. But you
live in Paris in a wealthy Western economy. And who says you have to
stay there, are you in prison? And why do you have to be an
entrepreneur or a salesman? Most people who fly airplanes are not
entrepreneurs or salesman. We just get off our butts and work, and
thats perfectly legal in every country I have visited, including
France.
Terry
 




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