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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Thomas Borchert wrote:
fails to grasp the meaning of 'omnipotent', Ah, faint echos of Bertrand Russell, paraphrasing here from the 1930s: "Do you really think that if there was a god and he had all the time and all the power and all the knowledge in the world, all he would come up with is Winston Churchill and the Nazis?" Yeah, those are "all" of the people in the world. You are either Winston Churchill, or you are a Nazi. A better question to ask, Tom, is why did Germans, in so large numbers, become Nazis, or actively support them and their rise to power; the horrors that Germany would unleash onto Europe and most of the world? |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Marissa Reichert wrote in
: Thomas Borchert wrote: fails to grasp the meaning of 'omnipotent', Ah, faint echos of Bertrand Russell, paraphrasing here from the 1930s: "Do you really think that if there was a god and he had all the time and all the power and all the knowledge in the world, all he would come up with is Winston Churchill and the Nazis?" Yeah, those are "all" of the people in the world. You are either Winston Churchill, or you are a Nazi. You could be both. Winnie, was, after all, a war criminal. Bertie |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Marissa Reichert wrote in : Thomas Borchert wrote: fails to grasp the meaning of 'omnipotent', Ah, faint echos of Bertrand Russell, paraphrasing here from the 1930s: "Do you really think that if there was a god and he had all the time and all the power and all the knowledge in the world, all he would come up with is Winston Churchill and the Nazis?" Yeah, those are "all" of the people in the world. You are either Winston Churchill, or you are a Nazi. You could be both. Winnie, was, after all, a war criminal. Yeah, Winston was also a Nazi. Sure. Thanks for your important contribution. |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Marissa Reichert wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Marissa Reichert wrote in : Thomas Borchert wrote: fails to grasp the meaning of 'omnipotent', Ah, faint echos of Bertrand Russell, paraphrasing here from the 1930s: "Do you really think that if there was a god and he had all the time and all the power and all the knowledge in the world, all he would come up with is Winston Churchill and the Nazis?" Yeah, those are "all" of the people in the world. You are either Winston Churchill, or you are a Nazi. You could be both. Winnie, was, after all, a war criminal. Yeah, Winston was also a Nazi. No, but if he did half the **** he did in his life nowadays, he'd be in the dock at the hague. Sure. Thanks for your important contribution. No problem fjukkwit. Bertie |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Marissa,
No objective standard. As I wrote, that was "my opinion". I stand by it. A better question to ask, It's a good question to ask - but it has nothing to do with our discussion. You like herring of the red variety, it seems. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Marissa,
Here is a little refresher on Joe Stalin: Again: Stalin is a red herring. He did not commit his atrocities "in the name of atheism". -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Thomas Borchert wrote:
Marissa, Here is a little refresher on Joe Stalin: Again: Stalin is a red herring. He did not commit his atrocities "in the name of atheism". Exactly! Atheism contradicts doing something "in the name of...." But somehow 20 million people were killed (or worse!) without this cause. I can't even imagine how horrible it must have been. |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Thomas Borchert wrote: Marissa, No objective standard. As I wrote, that was "my opinion". I stand by it. Perhaps, but sometimes it is useful when opinions have some supportable factual basis. A better question to ask, It's a good question to ask - but it has nothing to do with our discussion. You like herring of the red variety, it seems. Oh of course not. Afterall, I'm sure that banning religion would have stopped Nazi horrors, right? |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Marissa,
Afterall, I'm sure that banning religion would have stopped Nazi horrors, right? Huh? Nobody has been talking about banning, but if human societies would have come to the consensus to favor rationalism instead of religion (one might argue that the Nazi ideology as well as communism were some kind of quasi-religion - and people have done so at length) and that would have stopped the Crusades, the genocide of native Americans (both North and South), the Inquisition, the Pope advocating having as many children as possible in modern-day Africa, 9/11 and all those other examples of atrocities in the name of religion, that would have been plenty, wouldn't it? If reaching such a consensus is at all possible in humans is a different and very interesting question. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
Thomas Borchert wrote: Marissa, Afterall, I'm sure that banning religion would have stopped Nazi horrors, right? Huh? Nobody has been talking about banning, but if human societies would have come to the consensus to favor rationalism instead of religion (one might argue that the Nazi ideology as well as communism were some kind of quasi-religion - and people have done so at length) and that would have stopped the Crusades, the genocide of native Americans (both North and South), the Inquisition, the Pope advocating having as many children as possible in modern-day Africa, 9/11 and all those other examples of atrocities in the name of religion, that would have been plenty, wouldn't it? I was unaware that a very significant portion of Africa's population were following all of the pope's advocations. By following your position, we could also argue that being anti-religious is a religion in its own right. Furthermore, I inquired about an objective score for positives as well. Are they just to be dismissed with one brush since there were conflicts in medival Europe, etc.? Frankly, you could make a better case for the slightly less ludicroous position that Europe is responsible for creating and exporting the world's problems all over the globe over the past 600+ years or so. |
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