Compass trouble

I can understand both perspectives and, in fact, am leaning toward
preferring top posting. Your hard line position and blaming MS seems a
little fanatical.

I noticed that you didn't ignore my top post.
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Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK

"Jay Maynard" wrote in message
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On 2008-04-21, Travis Marlatte wrote:
MS didn't invent email.

No, they didn't. Before Outlook screwed up everyone's expectations,
though,
top-posting was universally reviled. Microsoft's mistake changed all that,
and not for the better.
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Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)

Travis Marlatte wrote:
I can understand both perspectives and, in fact, am leaning toward
preferring top posting.

Same here.

I bottom post, as I always have on Usenet, out of respect to convention.
Over time, I have formed an opinion that top posting or intertwining
comments makes the most sense from a readability standpoint.

To my eyes, what creates the real problems are people who don't trim
long posts combined with both top and bottom posting in long threads.

If a reply is properly trimmed and attributed, the reply is readable and
makes perfect sense regardless of where the reply is placed.

On 2008-04-21, Travis Marlatte wrote:
I can understand both perspectives and, in fact, am leaning toward
preferring top posting. Your hard line position and blaming MS seems a
little fanatical.

No, it's just backed by 20 years on the Internet. You see, I was here before
Microsoft ever dreamed of making software to use it.

Those who insist on topposting make a point of ignoring long-standing
Internet etiquette.

I noticed that you didn't ignore my top post.

Because I had a point to make.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:30:34 -0700, "karl mcgruber" skywagon
wrote:


But then, MS Flight Sim probably doesn't ever give you that audio, so
you probably won't hear it after all.
--
Jay (remove dashes for legal email address)


Since "somerset" doesn't appear in the FAA pilot database, I'd be guessing
you're the one playing games while I'm out flying for a living. Certainly
your knowledge portends that.

What makes you think I would EVER use my real name in an email
address? So I'm not surprised you couldn't find the listing under
"somerset". I am there under my real name.

But your name is not in the FAA databases either, either domestic or
foreign. Perhaps you are also using a pseudonym. Or more likely, you
are not a certificated pilot.
--
Jay (remove dashes for legal email address)

"Jay Maynard" wrote in message ...
On 2008-04-21, Travis Marlatte wrote:
I can understand both perspectives and, in fact, am leaning toward
preferring top posting. Your hard line position and blaming MS seems a
little fanatical.

No, it's just backed by 20 years on the Internet. You see, I was here before
Microsoft ever dreamed of making software to use it.

Those who insist on topposting make a point of ignoring long-standing
Internet etiquette.

I noticed that you didn't ignore my top post.

Because I had a point to make.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)


So what is that break in the middle response called...center posting?

Jay Somerset wrote:
Or more likely, you
are not a certificated pilot.


Karl is a professional pilot who has been here for years.

On 2008-04-21, B A R R Y wrote:
I bottom post, as I always have on Usenet, out of respect to convention.
Over time, I have formed an opinion that top posting or intertwining
comments makes the most sense from a readability standpoint.

What people call "interleaving" or "intertwining" comments is the actual
convention. Pure bottom-posting is no better than top-posting, and for the
same reason: there's no correspondence between your comments and what you're
commenting on.

To my eyes, what creates the real problems are people who don't trim
long posts combined with both top and bottom posting in long threads.

Yes, indeed. Lack of trimming is a real pain.

If a reply is properly trimmed and attributed, the reply is readable and
makes perfect sense regardless of where the reply is placed.

No. Top posting still breaks the relationship between your comments and what
you're commenting on.

You don't have conversations backwards...but that's what a top-posted
message reads like.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)

Isn't it brass, not bronze, screwdriver?

On 23 Apr 2008 21:53:34 GMT, Blanche wrote:

Isn't it brass, not bronze, screwdriver?

non magnetic is the requirement.
it can be brass, bronze or austinitic stainless steel.
it can be beautifully made or the hammered and filed end of a bronze
welding rod.

Stealth Pilot