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Cessna sued for skydiving accident. OT rant...
skym wrote:
Criticizing the system based on the McDonald's case is a fallacy. The reason it got so much attention is because it was an abberant result, at least as far as the jury verdict. The judge reduced the damages substantialy, which shows one of the safeguards that the system has. They are not perfect, but they usually work. The point is that there never should have been an award to reduce as McDonald's should not be held culpable for the stupidity of its customers. The only way the system would have worked in this case would be if the judge had thrown out the award and then jailed the lawyer for wasting the court's time. Matt |
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Cessna sued for skydiving accident. OT rant...
Matt Whiting wrote in
: Morgans wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote I see a nearly precise connection. The seller of alcohol knows that everyone who drinks it will be impaired to some degree. Most people are still legal to drive if tey only consum 1 drink over a period of 3o or 40 minutes. besides, the bartender does NOT know who is going to drive, or do something where the imparement could cause harm. Legality doesn't matter. They are still IMPAIRED. McDonald's does NOT know who is going to put coffee between their legs and then spill it. = Who cares? McDonalds are a blight upon the earth and everyone knows it. Thats why they gave that woman the money, to give them a black eye. Bertie |
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Cessna sued for skydiving accident. OT rant...
Matt Whiting wrote in news:WkR5j.1031$2n4.27076
@news1.epix.net: skym wrote: Criticizing the system based on the McDonald's case is a fallacy. The reason it got so much attention is because it was an abberant result, at least as far as the jury verdict. The judge reduced the damages substantialy, which shows one of the safeguards that the system has. They are not perfect, but they usually work. The point is that there never should have been an award to reduce as McDonald's should not be held culpable for the stupidity of its customers. One could easily make the argument that you have to be an idiot to eat at Mcdonalds in the first place. McDonalds obviously know this so therefore they have a responsibility to look after their idiots Bertie |
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Cessna sued for skydiving accident. OT rant...
Matt Whiting wrote:
Morgans wrote: "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing coffee is between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be served at that temperature. If I cook a prime rib at 375 F I don't plan to serve it at that temperature. Exactly. NOBODY can drink coffee at 180 degrees. Few could drink it at 140. Right. Most McDonalds are in towns or cities. I don't drive and drink coffee when in high traffic and congested areas. Even where I live, in a fairly rural area, most McDonalds are located such that I must drive 5-10 minutes before I'm in an area safe enough to drive my coffee while driving. By then the coffee is easily sipped and soon after can be gulped, and this is without adding cream or sugar which cool the coffee. If I was served coffee at 120 degrees, it would be barely above body temperature 10 minutes later and that would not make me a happy camper. Matt Unfortunately most people aren't as responsible as you are Matt. McD's research showed most people started drinking right away. |
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On Dec 6, 4:49 am, Matt Whiting wrote:
The only way the system would have worked in this case would be if the judge had thrown out the award and then jailed the lawyer for wasting the court's time. Matt Since the jury ruled in the plaintiff's favor (as did the judge when he still left $600,000+ in her favor), I assume you mean the defendant's lawyer. |
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On Dec 6, 6:29 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
One could easily make the argument that you have to be an idiot to eat at Mcdonalds in the first place. McDonalds obviously know this so therefore they have a responsibility to look after their idiots Bertie But don't you like Big Macs ? |
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Cessna sued for skydiving accident. OT rant...
" wrote in
: On Dec 6, 6:29 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: One could easily make the argument that you have to be an idiot to eat at Mcdonalds in the first place. McDonalds obviously know this so therefore they have a responsibility to look after their idiots Bertie But don't you like Big Macs ? Ewww. Elephant scabs smothered in special sauce? Let's not even talk about what part of the elephant that came from . Bertie |
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Cessna sued for skydiving accident.
On 2007-12-02 15:37:16 -0800, Peter Clark
said: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:30:37 -0500, "Blueskies" wrote: "F. Baum" wrote in message ... On Dec 2, 11:32 am, wrote: There's been an AD against the Caravan for more than a year (2006-06-06) that was recently superseded by 2007-10-15, perhaps driven by this accident. It seems that it doesn't matter that ADs are issued; they have to be modified or amended or superseded to make people sit up and take problems seriously. The Caravan has long had a history of poor ice performance and anyone flying one and staying current with aviation should know that. Dan, thanks for posting something aviation related on this thread (As opposed to Jay's OT BS). It has been a long time since I have flown a Caravan so I am not going to try to be an expert here. Unfortunatly the Caravan isnt the only Turboprop with poor icing performance (Remember the ATR). There are several others that I have flown that are downright scary in icing conditions. Maybe it is an inherent problem in Turboprpops. Thanks for the link. F Baum The airplane is NOT approved for flight into *known* icing conditions. So when a pilot finds himself in those conditions in one of these planes, Cessna is to blame if he/she screws up and crashes... The Cessna Model 208 and 208B Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH) and FAA-approved Airplane Flight Manual (AFM)Supplement S1 "Known Icing Euipment" begs to differ. I will have to check my copy of it if and when I ever manage to get back to the office. That is, after we get the flood water out of the house and the roads are clear. :-) I could have sworn that it was not certified for known ice. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Cessna sued for skydiving accident. OT rant...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Morgans wrote: "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote Also, while you link does say, "The best temperature for brewing coffee is between 195 F and 205 F." it doesn't say it should be served at that temperature. If I cook a prime rib at 375 F I don't plan to serve it at that temperature. Exactly. NOBODY can drink coffee at 180 degrees. Few could drink it at 140. Right. Most McDonalds are in towns or cities. I don't drive and drink coffee when in high traffic and congested areas. Even where I live, in a fairly rural area, most McDonalds are located such that I must drive 5-10 minutes before I'm in an area safe enough to drive my coffee while driving. By then the coffee is easily sipped and soon after can be gulped, and this is without adding cream or sugar which cool the coffee. If I was served coffee at 120 degrees, it would be barely above body temperature 10 minutes later and that would not make me a happy camper. Matt Unfortunately most people aren't as responsible as you are Matt. McD's research showed most people started drinking right away. I'm not surprised, but I still think that should not obligate McDonald's to lower the temp of their coffee, unless they choose to do so for marketing reasons and charge people an additional fee for the privilege! :-) Matt |
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